V-tec controllers in VVL's

[QG]

could a v-tec controller work with a vvl engine?

[Dragsta]

Not sure, but i know the Greddy MSS works in the VVL

[ksimon]

Greddy mss???? whats that about.... whats the cost of it??? i have a sr20 vvl but no controller

[Dragsta]

Not sure of the price...but i think its called Greddy MSS (Multi Switching System)

[azis]

could a v-tec controller work with a vvl engine?

yes it would work only u would have to switch on the both cams at the same time (which worked better for me) and with the mss u could have it switch one cam a time

bsically ur vvl vtec mivec is all switched on by a combination of rpm,oil pressure and tps
so once a unit would work for one make of engine it would work for all

[azis]

and my advice dont use the greddy mss cause it real hard to hookup and tune
i tried it in my b15 and i got fed up and used a cheaper less hassle way to do it
i used a tach with a shift light and just hooked up the light to the solenoids

[Dragsta]

i used a tach with a shift light and just hooked up the light to the solenoids

, cool.

can u explain a lil more abt this?

what RPM did the VVL came on?

[Dragsta]

also check ur belts and pulley's

[QG]

and my advice dont use the greddy mss cause it real hard to hookup and tune
i tried it in my b15 and i got fed up and used a cheaper less hassle way to do it
i used a tach with a shift light and just hooked up the light to the solenoids

I've heard this from someone before. What does the tach has to do with any controller? Does the tach have a way to activate the vvl kick to a certain rpm level? And does the tach and Greddy MSS work the same?

[azis]

all ur vvl needs is a rpm activating switch
and doesnt ur shift light on ur tach trigger by rpm ???
simple just make sure the tach u have switching the light on with a switching ground..... then hook up the switching ground wire from ur tach on the two ground wires on the both solenoids...... then tune ur tach at what rpm you want the vvl to turn on, in turn u would be setting the shift point on the tach but when the shift light turns on the vvl would turn on, simple easy and straight forward

[azis]

I've heard this from someone before. What does the tach has to do with any controller? Does the tach have a way to activate the vvl kick to a certain rpm level? And does the tach and Greddy MSS work the same?

now u understand the tach and mss would do the same job if u hook up the tach on the solenoids.........BUT isnt it easy to hook up a tach????? trust me a mss IS NOT easy to hookup and also IT ISNT easy to tune

[azis]

What does the tach has to do with any controller?

the tach becomes the controller

[ksimon]

For real??? so i can jus buy a tach with a shift light and my vvl would activate???

[azis]

yeh dont say i never helped u guys

[QG]

yeah brethren, thanks for your help...keep blessed!

[Anil_Sooknanan]

their is also some thing called V manage look it up

[azis]

yeh but them thing is big money and u have to either be good with tunning them thing or u hadda know someone who could

[azis]

compare the cost of a greddy mss and a v manage to a cheap tach with a shift light

[Picasso]

Jed all you need are RPM switches they are not as costly as the Greddy MSS and the MSD controller. There is a company called Sumit that makes RPM switches they will do the job.

[turbonator]

I believe dat when using the vtec controller u wont have control over each induvidual cams. Instead they would engage at the same time. Well das what i understand, anyone willing to confirm this.

[azis]

I believe dat when using the vtec controller u wont have control over each induvidual cams. Instead they would engage at the same time. Well das what i understand, anyone willing to confirm this.

yes it would work only u would have to switch on the both cams at the same time (which worked better for me) and with the mss u could have it switch one cam a time

bsically ur vvl vtec mivec is all switched on by a combination of rpm,oil pressure and tps
so once a unit would work for one make of engine it would work for all

i said that earlier

[turbonator]

^^ Or hor, ok my bad

[azis]

cool

[QG]

AZIS, here's my million dollar question...If you set the shift light to what ever rpm u want to activate the vvl, then how is the tach with light useful for when the car reaches it's maximum rpm to change into another gear?

[Dragsta]

Like u have to have to shift lights

[azis]

AZIS, here's my million dollar question...If you set the shift light to what ever rpm u want to activate the vvl, then how is the tach with light useful for when the car reaches it's maximum rpm to change into another gear?

how many people out there actually depend on a shift light to change gear ???

i dont

so therefore its like i bought a tach with a vvl controller

[QG]

quote "so therefore it's like i bought a tach with a vvl controller" end quote.

plain and simple there, that's a good way to put it across. Thanks for info.

[SmokeyGTi]

and my advice dont use the greddy mss cause it real hard to hookup and tune
i tried it in my b15 and i got fed up and used a cheaper less hassle way to do it
i used a tach with a shift light and just hooked up the light to the solenoids

that sounds so simple yet it in theory it should work! kudos to whoever originally came up with it - if is you well den yuh good!

[azis]

well it was my idea but the electrician did the work for me

[MRM]

hi azis
i'm from sri lanka & i have a Vz-R wih SR16VE engine,

when you connect the tach on the two ground wires on the both solenoids......
are you still going to keep the ECU line to to the solenoid??? or disconnect it .

your reply will be very very helpfull thanks inadvance