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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby V2NR 3.0 » October 24th, 2010, 4:07 pm

pioneer wrote:I am sick and fedup of these rienzi-complex-idiots forever blaming the PNM and the Syrians for drug trafficking in Trinidad and by extent the wider caribbean. Because thaz what they heard in the rumshop an thaz what kamala said.

I challenge anyone with something resembling a brain, common sense and possess the ability to be objective and formulate their OWN opinion/thoughts on the issue to purchase and download these e-books, it's only 6USD. You get the download within a couple minutes.

If you don't possess these qualities please read no further, click close and quickly exit this thread n go about with what you were doing.

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Make a contribution to the author and enlighten yourself to cold hard facts and who/what started it all. Then start bumping allyuh gum and stamp allyuh labels as allyuh see fit.

Cocaine and Heroin Trafficking in the Caribbean vol. 1

Cocaine and Heroin Trafficking in the Caribbean vol. 2

Again i urge you to take some time and READ, educate yourself on the topic then launch allyuh attacks. Least it would be an informed and educated attack (or one can assume so)

Also please don't go all bezman on us by reading the preface and assume you read the book.

Thanks.


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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby Rooki3 » October 24th, 2010, 5:22 pm

ABA Trading LTD wrote:does being a drug runner qualify as "having extensive background in the field" ? lol



uhmmm.......no, dais nickle & dime shyt, unless yuh totin "monos island" weight, yuh en have "extensive background in the field"

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby S_2NR » October 24th, 2010, 7:56 pm

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Great, now go shave your eyebrows.

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby brams112 » October 25th, 2010, 8:49 pm

don't care about anybook,if this book so good how come no one has not been jailed as yet,good one on the monos island ,,,,plenty laundries doing real pace,,some thing about trowing stones?

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby Rainman » October 25th, 2010, 8:56 pm

brams112 wrote:don't care about anybook,if this book so good how come no one has not been jailed as yet,good one on the monos island ,,,,plenty laundries doing real pace,,some thing about trowing stones?


At least we know why you're against books, you can't read or spell. :roll:

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby brams112 » October 25th, 2010, 9:14 pm

i don't care what you pricks think,know why cnuts?we still have to go to work,make a living and live our lives fools,while those people can buy what most of you can only dream to have,,carry on living in your glass houses,to bad you have to get on how you look,

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby Rainman » October 25th, 2010, 9:23 pm

brams112 wrote:i don't care what you pricks think,know why cnuts?we still have to go to work,make a living and live our lives fools,while those people can buy what most of you can only dream to have,,carry on living in your glass houses,to bad you have to get on how you look,



*Sips on Cambodian breast milk*

You still can't read, write or punctuate.

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby brams112 » October 25th, 2010, 9:35 pm

some body glass house get crack, :lol: :drinking: try watching three and a half men while typing on a wireless laptop that on your belly plus thinking of ways to further crack you fools up,basket don't water bois :) :) ,laters,still can't do anything about drug running,can't stop what you don't understand :fist: :mrgreen: ,

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Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby NorStar2K » November 1st, 2010, 1:26 pm

Stumbled upon the article on the Foreign Policy Magazine website.

Very interesting read. (Note who was still PM)

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Trouble in Paradise
Welcome to the world's newest narcostate.
BY DORN TOWNSEND | MARCH 11, 2010

Of late, Patrick Manning, the prime minister of the tiny island nation of Trinidad and Tobago, has been publicly contemplating deploying the country's navy to patrol the Antilles for drug smugglers. His statements might come as a surprise. For one, Trinidad and Tobago barely has a navy: just three 140-foot offshore patrol vessels and some patrol crafts. Additionally, the country, renowned as a Caribbean vacation spot, generally has no need to defend itself.

But not everyone in Trinidad was caught off guard. The drug trade has made the island paradise a very violent place. At the same time, oil wealth has given the Manning government the means to assert Trinidad and Tobago as a regional power.

Over the past decade, Trinidad's murder rate has risen nearly 400 percent; last year, the rate in the capital city of Port of Spain rivaled those in Johannesburg and Baghdad. Proliferating gangs, mostly composed of impoverished young men, are behind many of the killings, centered in the dense suburbs of Port of Spain. But shootings are not confined to the slums. Last year, a witness against a gang boss was gunned down as she left the central courthouse; another gang leader was shot to death at a popular outdoor bar.

What has emboldened the gangs and caused the violence? Mostly, drugs. According to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, Trinidad and Tobago has become a major transshipment point for illegal substances heading north from South America. Traffickers send cocaine and small arms from Venezuela, just 7 miles off the coast of Trinidad, via fast boat. The drugs are then shipped out on container ships, planes, and private yachts. Between June and November, hurricane season in the northern Caribbean but not as far south as Trinidad, the trade increases, with drug runners packing the cocaine into boats, sometimes with extra-wide decoy hulls, and sending it on to the United States and other consumer countries.

Cocaine mostly passes through Trinidad and Tobago, but marijuana and small arms often stick around. Clandestine fast boats carrying large quantities of marijuana come from nearby islands such as St. Vincent and Grenada. Lately, assault rifles decommissioned by Venezuela's military have been turning up in Trinidad. Between 2001 and 2008, the number of guns seized by authorities quadrupled.

Manning has tackled these problems head-on -- claiming he will build "Fortress Trinidad and Tobago," buying helicopters and summoning his security forces. But, unfortunately, the Port of Spain government helps stoke the drug trade and the gangs. The country's annual per capita GDP has risen from about $11,000 to $18,800 in the past decade due to strong exports of natural gas and steel. Still, unemployment remains high, and to create jobs, the government spends about $400 million per year on make-work projects. The bulk of this money is ultimately funneled to gang leaders, who administer "grants" and distribute "salaries." Indeed, corruption -- always a problem in the country -- is reaching new heights. According to several security analysts, a damning unofficial study carried out by the government in 2009 suggested that almost 90 percent of police officers were regularly involved in illegal activities. Those pursuits ranged from running and selling drugs, to colluding with gangs by renting out weapons to criminals, to performing extralegal killings.

Plus, despite Manning's saber rattling, Trinidad and Tobago's security teams have not been terribly effective. Trinidad's security forces have never intercepted a cocaine-carrying fast boat or made a significant bust. In 2005, officers did impound a shipment of cocaine said to be worth $800 million. But this find was accidental. Late one night, officers investigating suspicious lights on a deserted beach literally tripped over the contraband.

Senior intelligence officials cite the lack of arrests as proof that claims that major cartels operate in their country are mistaken. They claim the allegations are the invention of local muckracking reporters. Residents and workers on offshore oil rigs near those drug channels disagree. According to one foreign oil worker, so many fast boats cruise toward Trinidad's sheltered coves that "It's like the Normandy invasion." A few years ago, Trinidad purchased a sophisticated new 360-degree radar system. According to one senior official, the government has yet to turn it on. Another analyst disputes this, saying the problem is that too few staff members understand how to use the radar technology.

Thus, whether or not Manning is effective in protecting Trinidad and Tobago from drugs and guns from overseas, it is clear he needs just as badly to tackle problems at home. To do so, he needs help -- and international supervision. A coalition of governments -- including the United States and Britain, whose navies patrol the region -- should step in to help patrol the lane between Trinidad and Venezuela. Training should also be supplied to Trinidad's Coast Guard so it can vigorously pursue smugglers. With its new navy, the largest in the English-speaking Caribbean, Trinidad may be able to fill a real void in detecting cocaine smuggling. But it has to secure its own borders first and purge its security forces of corrupt members. Until Trinidad gets serious about this, the United States should disinvite the country from regional security dialogues. With its wealth and strategic location, Trinidad and Tobago is a natural partner. Yet these countries would be wise to make sure that they do not let the fox guard the henhouse.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... n_paradise" target="_blank

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby Aaron 2NR » November 1st, 2010, 1:31 pm

very interesting indeed.....

who remember the meeting with Patos and some "investors" leading up to the election....

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby Halfbreed07 » November 1st, 2010, 1:34 pm

curtain men = "investors"

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby Michael Knight... » November 1st, 2010, 3:33 pm

norstar2k wrote:Stumbled upon the article on the Foreign Policy Magazine website.

Very interesting read. (Note who was still PM)

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Trouble in Paradise
Welcome to the world's newest narcostate.
BY DORN TOWNSEND | MARCH 11, 2010

Of late, Patrick Manning, the prime minister of the tiny island nation of Trinidad and Tobago, has been publicly contemplating deploying the country's navy to patrol the Antilles for drug smugglers. His statements might come as a surprise. For one, Trinidad and Tobago barely has a navy: just three 140-foot offshore patrol vessels and some patrol crafts. Additionally, the country, renowned as a Caribbean vacation spot, generally has no need to defend itself.

But not everyone in Trinidad was caught off guard. The drug trade has made the island paradise a very violent place. At the same time, oil wealth has given the Manning government the means to assert Trinidad and Tobago as a regional power.

Over the past decade, Trinidad's murder rate has risen nearly 400 percent; last year, the rate in the capital city of Port of Spain rivaled those in Johannesburg and Baghdad. Proliferating gangs, mostly composed of impoverished young men, are behind many of the killings, centered in the dense suburbs of Port of Spain. But shootings are not confined to the slums. Last year, a witness against a gang boss was gunned down as she left the central courthouse; another gang leader was shot to death at a popular outdoor bar.

What has emboldened the gangs and caused the violence? Mostly, drugs. According to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, Trinidad and Tobago has become a major transshipment point for illegal substances heading north from South America. Traffickers send cocaine and small arms from Venezuela, just 7 miles off the coast of Trinidad, via fast boat. The drugs are then shipped out on container ships, planes, and private yachts. Between June and November, hurricane season in the northern Caribbean but not as far south as Trinidad, the trade increases, with drug runners packing the cocaine into boats, sometimes with extra-wide decoy hulls, and sending it on to the United States and other consumer countries.

Cocaine mostly passes through Trinidad and Tobago, but marijuana and small arms often stick around. Clandestine fast boats carrying large quantities of marijuana come from nearby islands such as St. Vincent and Grenada. Lately, assault rifles decommissioned by Venezuela's military have been turning up in Trinidad. Between 2001 and 2008, the number of guns seized by authorities quadrupled.

Manning has tackled these problems head-on -- claiming he will build "Fortress Trinidad and Tobago," buying helicopters and summoning his security forces. But, unfortunately, the Port of Spain government helps stoke the drug trade and the gangs. The country's annual per capita GDP has risen from about $11,000 to $18,800 in the past decade due to strong exports of natural gas and steel. Still, unemployment remains high, and to create jobs, the government spends about $400 million per year on make-work projects. The bulk of this money is ultimately funneled to gang leaders, who administer "grants" and distribute "salaries." Indeed, corruption -- always a problem in the country -- is reaching new heights. According to several security analysts, a damning unofficial study carried out by the government in 2009 suggested that almost 90 percent of police officers were regularly involved in illegal activities. Those pursuits ranged from running and selling drugs, to colluding with gangs by renting out weapons to criminals, to performing extralegal killings.

Plus, despite Manning's saber rattling, Trinidad and Tobago's security teams have not been terribly effective. Trinidad's security forces have never intercepted a cocaine-carrying fast boat or made a significant bust. In 2005, officers did impound a shipment of cocaine said to be worth $800 million. But this find was accidental. Late one night, officers investigating suspicious lights on a deserted beach literally tripped over the contraband.

Senior intelligence officials cite the lack of arrests as proof that claims that major cartels operate in their country are mistaken. They claim the allegations are the invention of local muckracking reporters. Residents and workers on offshore oil rigs near those drug channels disagree. According to one foreign oil worker, so many fast boats cruise toward Trinidad's sheltered coves that "It's like the Normandy invasion." A few years ago, Trinidad purchased a sophisticated new 360-degree radar system. According to one senior official, the government has yet to turn it on. Another analyst disputes this, saying the problem is that too few staff members understand how to use the radar technology.

Thus, whether or not Manning is effective in protecting Trinidad and Tobago from drugs and guns from overseas, it is clear he needs just as badly to tackle problems at home. To do so, he needs help -- and international supervision. A coalition of governments -- including the United States and Britain, whose navies patrol the region -- should step in to help patrol the lane between Trinidad and Venezuela. Training should also be supplied to Trinidad's Coast Guard so it can vigorously pursue smugglers. With its new navy, the largest in the English-speaking Caribbean, Trinidad may be able to fill a real void in detecting cocaine smuggling. But it has to secure its own borders first and purge its security forces of corrupt members. Until Trinidad gets serious about this, the United States should disinvite the country from regional security dialogues. With its wealth and strategic location, Trinidad and Tobago is a natural partner. Yet these countries would be wise to make sure that they do not let the fox guard the henhouse.

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby SMc » November 1st, 2010, 3:45 pm

1.) The Syrians will not be happy
2.) 'Yet these countries would be wise to make sure that they do not let the fox guard the henhouse'...well said

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby brams112 » November 1st, 2010, 9:43 pm

good find there boi,,,

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby bushwakka » November 1st, 2010, 10:24 pm

blehhh....old article....bleehhhh patos

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby Rooki3 » November 1st, 2010, 10:33 pm

so kamla cancel the OPV's so drug runners can operate undisturbed????

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby geodude » November 2nd, 2010, 5:31 am

you real late boi

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Re: Article: Trouble in Paradise

Postby RBphoto » November 2nd, 2010, 7:24 pm

If they legalize drugs, there would be no crime associated with it. The whole anti drug push is to support American foreign policy and influence. The whole article is a PR hack for foreign countries to substantiate meddling in our security affairs and making us buy more OPV's, blimps and helicopters :|

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby janfar » December 10th, 2010, 12:41 am

dl'd.... will get back in a few... it have some big words in them book...

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby Shango_13 » December 10th, 2010, 3:12 am

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby RASC » December 10th, 2010, 3:42 am

Pioneer, another excellent thread.

You're a fellow freedom fighter///trying to educate the ignorant masses. They're lost without us.

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby janfar » December 10th, 2010, 6:17 am

'One result is the flight of the wives and children of leaders of the trafficking
organisations to safe houses in Europe and the US'

I read this and spit out meh gin... remembering pios always talkin bout he favourite MP...

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby RASC » December 10th, 2010, 9:25 am

It's not a surprise that this sort of thread has sunk to the bottom. Yet threads NOT seriously concerning the populace are the most popular amoung this crowd. $150Million Mansion...#1
A thread about the REAL issues of the country....soon to be on the doomed PAGE 2.

Is it because many of the Tuners here are involved or have family members involved in the trade? Don't be surprised if it were true. Many of them seem to keep sketchy company anyway. No wonder the website doesn't get together in general as much as before--->I wouldn't want to be around those GUNTAS either.

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby Bezman » December 10th, 2010, 9:38 am

OK, so i went into dad's library and found these books, and i was amazed...
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they are so small, I guess thats what you get for $6?

at least they have pictuuurz....yaaaayy :lo:

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby src1983 » December 10th, 2010, 9:45 am

I read a few pages of this book a while back. Very good read, as it shows the extent to which the drug trade affects our economy and social lives.

Thanks for the link for the e-books.

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby RASC » December 10th, 2010, 9:49 am

Again, I keep saying...we attack our drug issue, ALOT of the other issues would fall in line.

Economic issues IMHO would see the greatest leap in positivity and the first to show signs of a revival.

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby janfar » December 11th, 2010, 4:02 pm

wow eh... that was quite intriguing to say the least... Pios... if yuh have that which was quoted many times in that book... i want eet... SDR...

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Re: Narco Trafficking in Trinidad

Postby janfar » December 11th, 2010, 11:43 pm

Well that document willl further enlighten me...this book only touch on the subject and my further research in the paper archives gave a little insight.

Some parts of the book I would honestly say he was a bit narrow minded in that he tries to drive a manipulative point home that the whole drug trade in Trinidad is to bring down the black poor which in my mind... is not. I can understand how he comes to this given the current situation of the EW corridor but on a broader spectrum is has affected everyone negatively in some way or the other.

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