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Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby Devourment » April 29th, 2011, 10:36 am

So i've been thinking about doing my MSc (Engineering) lately and I've been looking at UK & USA schools.

I have upper second class honors at UWI so I should get into most schools easily.

What do you guys feel about the US schools versus UK schools.

UK seems to be better to me as it's shorter (1 year full time) and I don't need to do GRE to be accepted.

One question though how easy is it for UWI Upper Second Honors degree student to be accepted into MSc programs of top UK schools?

I'm looking at Cambridge, Oxford or Imperial.

The US schools seem more expensive (especially as its two years), however cost of living in England would definitely be higher than the US.

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Postby cinco » April 29th, 2011, 10:39 am

good luck
anywhere out of the caribbean laughs at your UWI degree

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby zoom rader » April 29th, 2011, 10:46 am

UK all the way bro.

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Postby Stephon. » April 29th, 2011, 10:46 am

UK, go for the best.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby zoom rader » April 29th, 2011, 10:54 am

Go Imperial dude its right in the middle of london and lives up to its name. Only thing is its a bit coslty to study in the UK, u need cash or a job to make it work.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby Devourment » April 29th, 2011, 11:19 am

zoom rader wrote:Go Imperial dude its right in the middle of london and lives up to its name. Only thing is its a bit coslty to study in the UK, u need cash or a job to make it work.


Yup leaning the most toward Imperial due to it being in London.

Money is not an issue...although living in London along with the higher tuition would cost at least £5K more.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby cinco » April 29th, 2011, 11:23 am

take my stupid advice
send your transcripts to the schools u are interested in and let them evaluate it

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby zoom rader » April 29th, 2011, 11:42 am

Devourment wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Go Imperial dude its right in the middle of london and lives up to its name. Only thing is its a bit coslty to study in the UK, u need cash or a job to make it work.


Yup leaning the most toward Imperial due to it being in London.

Money is not an issue...although living in London along with the higher tuition would cost at least £5K more.

Well go for it dude, London is a world in a world

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby InsanityReigns » April 29th, 2011, 11:45 am

cinco wrote:good luck
anywhere out of the caribbean laughs at your UWI degree


True dat!

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Postby Devourment » April 29th, 2011, 12:20 pm

InsanityReigns wrote:
cinco wrote:good luck
anywhere out of the caribbean laughs at your UWI degree


True dat!


I guess that applies to you all who not in Engineering. After all, sco sci takes in the dregs from A levels.....I know men who got Ds & Es at A levels and got into Sco Sci. No wonder foreign institutions would laugh at those degrees.

However, Eng is a different story. The degrees are internationally accredited and I remember IET saying UWI's Elec & Comp Eng was had one off if not the toughest workload of any international institution they accredit.

Engineers from UWI routinely get into top universities all over the world without much fuss.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby zeeshan66 » April 29th, 2011, 12:51 pm

it all depend on what you want to study. your field + the highest acclaimed school that offers your program = best decision. If you've got the $ and grades (and to some extent contacts) then ivy league schools in the states are hard to beat. UWI, UTT, USB etc. would be my last choice/resort.

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Postby RBphoto » April 29th, 2011, 12:52 pm

I have no intention of doing my masters in our field, as I am considering the management route. I keep abreast of the industry with ISA and IET membership. I suggest the US as the British university system was described as bing in crisis by the IET just a few years ago also. Only problem is that if you want to work, you might quicker get the visa to work in the UK with a UWI degree than in the states. Need to do all kinda state board exams and thing to get a license to practice in the states.

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Postby goalpost » April 29th, 2011, 12:56 pm

Anybody doing/did the distance learning MSc Power Systems at University of Bath (UK)? It's offered through SBCS. If so, any thoughts?

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Postby zeeshan66 » April 29th, 2011, 1:02 pm

pm if you have any specific questions of programs or universities in the usa. i have two siblings who have attended ivy league and various other acquaintances in programs across the east coast.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » April 29th, 2011, 4:48 pm

I taught doctors graduated from UWI were recognized around the world?

First time I hearing they does laugh at UWI degree. I could imagine for UTT then

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Postby Devourment » April 29th, 2011, 4:57 pm

crossdrilled wrote:I have no intention of doing my masters in our field, as I am considering the management route. I keep abreast of the industry with ISA and IET membership. I suggest the US as the British university system was described as bing in crisis by the IET just a few years ago also. Only problem is that if you want to work, you might quicker get the visa to work in the UK with a UWI degree than in the states. Need to do all kinda state board exams and thing to get a license to practice in the states.


UWI engineers (with good degrees) get a lot of job offers. In 2-3 months my friend got 7 job offers including some prestigious company's such as rolls royce.

What sort of crisis did the IET indicated though?

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby zcarz » April 29th, 2011, 4:59 pm

I'd like to know something, I'm also interested in studying in the UK (well to do medicine some time in the near future), would it really be that easy to get into some of those schools like oxford and cambridge, especially being a Caribbean citizen? I've heard the only way to get into Cambridge is if you get a President's medal. Anyway, OP i say you should go UK, you'll be a bit more comfortable, and the application process is through UCAS.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby Devourment » April 29th, 2011, 4:59 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I taught doctors graduated from UWI were recognized around the world?

First time I hearing they does laugh at UWI degree. I could imagine for UTT then


Dude employers does laugh at UTT degrees down here.

Next time a UTT or SBCS graduate want to feel they could call themselves an engineer i go hit them a hard slap. You are glorified technicians, that is all.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby zcarz » April 29th, 2011, 5:05 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I taught doctors graduated from UWI were recognized around the world?

First time I hearing they does laugh at UWI degree. I could imagine for UTT then

In America, yes they would be given similar recognition, but not really so in many other places (im speaking in terms of medical degrees.) UWI standard itself is really not up to par with the UK standard (again speaking in terms of medicine, i can't tell you for anything else).

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby bonzo.specb » April 29th, 2011, 5:09 pm

Devourment wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I taught doctors graduated from UWI were recognized around the world?

First time I hearing they does laugh at UWI degree. I could imagine for UTT then


Dude employers does laugh at UTT degrees down here.

Next time a UTT or SBCS graduate want to feel they could call themselves an engineer i go hit them a hard slap. You are glorified technicians, that is all.

:rofl:
Good one, I know a few. Will surely use this against them.

But careful, I'm certain there must be some that browse this forum.

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Postby crazychinee » April 29th, 2011, 5:57 pm

zcarz wrote:I'd like to know something, I'm also interested in studying in the UK (well to do medicine some time in the near future), would it really be that easy to get into some of those schools like oxford and cambridge, especially being a Caribbean citizen? I've heard the only way to get into Cambridge is if you get a President's medal. Anyway, OP i say you should go UK, you'll be a bit more comfortable, and the application process is through UCAS.

Answer is no. Many a presidents Gold medal winner have been rejected from cambridge/Oxford.

Your grades gets your foot in; your overall app + interview gets you acceptance.
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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby crazychinee » April 29th, 2011, 5:58 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I taught doctors graduated from UWI were recognized around the world?

First time I hearing they does laugh at UWI degree. I could imagine for UTT then

Uwi's medical degree was recogized up till about 6-7 years ago. I believe the last class to have full GMC accreditation was class of 04; which means you could of applied to speciality programes without doing anything additional.

Now it's a whole different ball game.

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Postby RBphoto » April 29th, 2011, 7:28 pm

crazychinee wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I taught doctors graduated from UWI were recognized around the world?

First time I hearing they does laugh at UWI degree. I could imagine for UTT then

Uwi's medical degree was recogized up till about 6-7 years ago. I believe the last class to have full GMC accreditation was class of 04; which means you could of applied to speciality programes without doing anything additional.

Now it's a whole different ball game.


UWI doctors cannot practice in the states. Only in the UK. They have to do the USMLE exams, get a placement, then work as an intern from scratch. UWI doctors can only work freely in the UK.

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Postby RBphoto » April 29th, 2011, 7:42 pm

Oh, as for UTT, their graduates are well respected in the petroleum industry in Trinidad. I have worked with many in BG, BPTT, and on the estate and they are actually less haughty and willing to learn than UWI grads I work with, thus get further than the UWI grad that thinks too much of themselves and looking for glory, willing to put in the extra effort to get a job done and sweat with the best of us in the field to solve problems. Their students are placed in part time work/ study programs much faster than UWI graduates. Mr. Devourment if that is your attitude to people who got their qualifications from an alternate route from yours, you are no better than some expats who come here and think that our engineers are just a bunch of monkeys banging on computers. I am proud that I have a degree, but after working for just about 11 years, do you really think that what lessons I did in an alcohol induced state of zombification actually means shite to any employer who would look at my CV right now? I think you have some growing up to do.

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Postby Devourment » April 29th, 2011, 7:58 pm

crossdrilled wrote:Oh, as for UTT, their graduates are well respected in the petroleum industry in Trinidad. I have worked with many in BG, BPTT, and on the estate and they are actually less haughty and willing to learn than UWI grads I work with, thus get further than the UWI grad that thinks too much of themselves and looking for glory, willing to put in the extra effort to get a job done and sweat with the best of us in the field to solve problems. Their students are placed in part time work/ study programs much faster than UWI graduates. Mr. Devourment if that is your attitude to people who got their qualifications from an alternate route from yours, you are no better than some expats who come here and think that our engineers are just a bunch of monkeys banging on computers. I am proud that I have a degree, but after working for just about 11 years, do you really think that what lessons I did in an alcohol induced state of zombification actually means shite to any employer who would look at my CV right now? I think you have some growing up to do.


Dude you cannot compare UTT "engineers" with UWI engineers. UTT's level of work is not even close to on par with what UWI graduates have to go through.

That said, not all UWI engineers are worth their degree.....but trust me it aint easy to get first class honors.

And again, UTT produces technicians. Nothing is a wrong with that. I have met some excellent techs from UTT who are hardworking and fast learners.

Engineers they are not.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby crazychinee » April 29th, 2011, 8:13 pm

Devourment wrote:
crossdrilled wrote:Oh, as for UTT, their graduates are well respected in the petroleum industry in Trinidad. I have worked with many in BG, BPTT, and on the estate and they are actually less haughty and willing to learn than UWI grads I work with, thus get further than the UWI grad that thinks too much of themselves and looking for glory, willing to put in the extra effort to get a job done and sweat with the best of us in the field to solve problems. Their students are placed in part time work/ study programs much faster than UWI graduates. Mr. Devourment if that is your attitude to people who got their qualifications from an alternate route from yours, you are no better than some expats who come here and think that our engineers are just a bunch of monkeys banging on computers. I am proud that I have a degree, but after working for just about 11 years, do you really think that what lessons I did in an alcohol induced state of zombification actually means shite to any employer who would look at my CV right now? I think you have some growing up to do.


Dude you cannot compare UTT "engineers" with UWI engineers. UTT's level of work is not even close to on par with what UWI graduates have to go through.

That said, not all UWI engineers are worth their degree.....but trust me it aint easy to get first class honors.

And again, UTT produces technicians. Nothing is a wrong with that. I have met some excellent techs from UTT who are hardworking and fast learners.

Engineers they are not.


Come na, end this talk now. I can't handle another UTT VS UWI thread with the John D men and SBCS engineers being offended because they not included.

And I am not sure UWI doctors can go to the UK and work freely...or even if they can 'find' a job.
Best man to answer that is worksux101

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crazychinee wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I taught doctors graduated from UWI were recognized around the world?

First time I hearing they does laugh at UWI degree. I could imagine for UTT then

Uwi's medical degree was recogized up till about 6-7 years ago. I believe the last class to have full GMC accreditation was class of 04; which means you could of applied to speciality programes without doing anything additional.

Now it's a whole different ball game.


UWI doctors cannot practice in the states. Only in the UK. They have to do the USMLE exams, get a placement, then work as an intern from scratch. UWI doctors can only work freely in the UK.

Dont think so. I believe the route in the US can be :all parts of boards followed by residency; intern year is the first year of speciality residency. That in itself will take at least 3 years to get in; if you're good and can hit 99%.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby sentinel007 » April 29th, 2011, 9:02 pm

i dont mean to shoot you down but with upper second honors u simply will not get accepted into cambridge oxford or imperial..dats just the reality...i kno pple who graduated with first class honors in engineering and didnt get tru...i have many friends who graduated with upper seconds in mech and comp and elec eng and some are still looking for jobs in their respective fields..

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Postby S_2NR » April 29th, 2011, 9:22 pm

you better off going abroad to do ur masters if money is not an issue.
UWI engineeering is a good programme but the lecturers dont care if you fail or not..some even want you to fail by setting impossible exams and being a-holes to students.
to get into prestigious UK schools you would NEED first class honors.
Anythin else is a gamble.

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Postby Devourment » April 29th, 2011, 11:14 pm

sentinel007 wrote:i dont mean to shoot you down but with upper second honors u simply will not get accepted into cambridge oxford or imperial..dats just the reality...i kno pple who graduated with first class honors in engineering and didnt get tru...i have many friends who graduated with upper seconds in mech and comp and elec eng and some are still looking for jobs in their respective fields..


Well that's funny because three of my friends are studying (or have studied) at Imperial and they all got Upper Second Class Honors. Depends on the program requirements. Some MSc programs explicitly state they have a minimum requirement of First Class Honors, some say upper and some even say lower second and above.

I created this post to find out comparisons between UK vs US schools for post grad engineering Masters. I know countless of UWI grads who have gone to England, but almost none personally who have been to the US.

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Re: Do Masters in UK, USA or UWI?

Postby cinco » April 29th, 2011, 11:56 pm

i already told you want to do
send your transcripts to the schools and see what they accept and how many credits they give you

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