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Greypatch wrote:4. CLICO
The Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago has sunk BILLIONS of tax dollars in this entity since its collapse almost 2 years ago.
Just last night a debate was taking place in parliament to use Republic Bank shares to repay depositors.
YET the CEO and the entire BOARD of CLICO have remained untouched..not held accountable for the hardship thousands of its depositors are facing.
We the citizens have to pay for their folly.
Grudge wrote:Where was the CENTRAL BANK ??????????????
Where was EUWAT WILLIAMS???????????????
Country_Bookie wrote:The Commission of Enquiry has been showing live on Channel 4 all this week. Really interesting viewing. Carballo is bussing everybody files.
He just said that Gita Sakal had a TT$90M contract (when u count monthly salary and bonus) and she would have been paid that amount even if she had left the company after one month. Additionally, she might also have been receiving compensation from Methanol Holdings. Anyone knows if she single?
rspann wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:The Commission of Enquiry has been showing live on Channel 4 all this week. Really interesting viewing. Carballo is bussing everybody files.
He just said that Gita Sakal had a TT$90M contract (when u count monthly salary and bonus) and she would have been paid that amount even if she had left the company after one month. Additionally, she might also have been receiving compensation from Methanol Holdings. Anyone knows if she single?
Country bookie you go deal with something looking so cuz she have money?Any way she family say she planting garden in penal,ah will get the address for you.Any tuners interested in Moteil,he minding sheep in Tamana.
Motilal: I know nothing about Clico Energy sale
Story Created: Nov 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM ECT
RAMPERSAD MOTILAL, chief executive officer of Methanol Holdings (Trinidad) Ltd, yesterday denied having any input in the sale of CLICO Energy.
Motilal was identified by former group financial director of CL Financial, Michael Carballo, as one half of a team of CL Financial directors that organised the sale of CLICO Energy amid controversial circumstances.
Carballo also pointed to former CL Financial corporate secretary Gita Sakal as being an integral part of CLICO Energy's sale. Sakal is expected to take the witness stand today.
During his testimony in the last evidence hearing in the Commission of Enquiry which ended on September 27, Carballo stated that Sakal and Motilal had "complicity" in the controversial sale of shares in CLICO Energy.
Some 84 million shares of CLICO Energy, which amounted to a 51 per cent stake in the company, were sold to a Barbados company called Proman Holdings after a Memorandum of Understanding was signed with Government for a billion-dollar bailout of CL Financial.
The shares were sold for US$20 million but the company was valued at US$200 million, Carballo noted in his witness statement.
The sale was also made without the knowledge of the CL Financial's Board of Directors, Carballo stated in his witness statement.
Motilal yesterday appeared on the witness stand at the Commission of Enquiry after being served with a subpoena.
Senior Counsel Fyard Hosein, the legal representative for the Ministry of Finance in the enquiry, yesterday read the portion of Carballo's statement which implicated Motilal in the sale.
Motilal said he was "distressed" when he read Carballo's claims.
"I was not in any away involved with the sale, I was not aware of the sale until I heard about it on the February 15 (2009)," Carballo said. The sale of CLICO Energy took place on February 5.
Motilal was part of a sub-committee of the CL Financial Board organised to ensure the sale of CLICO assets and payment of executive bonuses were not approved in accordance with the guidelines of the MOU.
The sub-committee never met to discuss the disposal of CLICO Energy's shares, Motilal said.
Motilal joined the CL Financial Board of Directors in 2005 and tendered his resignation on April 7, 2009.
The decision to leave the CL Financial Board was made after he was told that former chairman of the board Lawrence Duprey had held talks with the Ministry of Finance to organise a sale of MHTL.
The majority ownership of MHTL has to be approved by a German financing firm first, said Motilal.
CLICO and CL Financial held a majority shareholding of 56.53 per cent in MHTL, Motilal said. CLICO's share accounted to 49 per cent.
The dividend payments were however paid to CL Financial.
Sir Anthony Colman the lone commissioner in the Commission of Enquiry described it as "a pretty incomprehensible agreement".
bushwakka wrote:^the statutory fund not supposed to be in deficit in the first place....that is part of the whole shiznick......we have all heard the rumour that someone dipped their hand in the fund to pay out the high rollers
.Karen: I was in the dark on CL/CIB affairs
By Andre Bagoo Thursday, January 12 2012
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Firm point: Former Finance Minister Karen Nunez-Tesheira makes a firm point during her testimony at the Clico Commission of Inquiry, Winsure Building,...
Firm point: Former Finance Minister Karen Nunez-Tesheira makes a firm point during her testimony at the Clico Commission of Inquiry, Winsure Building,...
FORMER Finance Minister Karen Nunez-Tesheira was a woman trapped in the middle of a series of events orchestrated by male figures who – through secret meetings and mysterious failures to comply with reporting requirements–effectively kept her in the dark as to the true state of affairs at CL Financial (CLF) and the Clico Investment Bank, according to testimony yesterday.
The former Finance Minister, who gave evidence yesterday at the Clico Commission of Inquiry at the Winsure Building, Richmond Street, Port-of-Spain, painted a picture of being a finance minister who occupied the key post while others around her pulled the strings in January 2008. In evidence in chief which lasted about two hours, the former minister said:
* former Minister in the Ministry of Finance Mariano Browne, who was in charge of the portfolio related to State enterprises, failed to tell Nunez-Tesheira that State enterprises had, up to December 2008, pumped billions of taxpayers funds–unsecured–into CIB;
* Browne also failed to alert her that the State enterprises were having trouble withdrawing their funds and that he was approached, one evening, by CLF financial fixer, and former UNC minister, Carlos John who asked Browne to attempt to exert influence to stop state enterprises from taking their money out;
* that even as he met with Nunez-Tesheira to seek government help, former CLF executive chairman Lawrence Duprey was still “wheeling and dealing”, attempting to pitch deals to the State, as CLF officials withheld the true story of the trouble of CLF;
* Central Bank Governor Ewart Willliams did not inform Nunez-Tesheira of problems at CLF/CIB, even after he had at least one secret meeting with former CLF director Dr Bhoe Tewarie; and
* the first person Nunez-Tesheira turned to for advice and instructions after ascertaining the extent of the trouble at CLF was former boss, former Prime Minister Patrick Manning.
Of the investment of billions of Investment Note Certificates (INCs) by State entities such as National Gas Company (NGC) and the National Insurance Board (NIB), Nunez-Tesheira, who for most of her tenure was focussed on key legislative reforms of the financial sector, said she only learned of this practice in January 2009.
“I was so shocked,” she said when she learnt of the practice during a meeting with the then Prime Minister and Central Bank Governor Ewart Williams.
“Because I did not know about it. Minister Browne has the responsibility for State enterprises....I never knew about INCs and Minister Browne never told me about it.” She said she would meet with Browne on Tuesday mornings to be briefed and this was never raised.
“That was why I was floored. I was absolutely floored that we had that amount of exposure,” she said.
“I said how could all of this be happening, State entities investing in the billions and I am told nothing?” She added, “I had to imagine that he (Browne) was not aware. I don’t want to speak for Mr Browne.”
Later, the NGC contacted Nunez-Tesheira in relation to the INCs.“I said how could you be taking billions of taxpayers money and investing in an entity and not making sure it was secure?” she said. “They did not get a good reception from me.”
Also at the meeting with the Governor and the Prime Minister, it was revealed that Browne had been approached by Carlos John.
“John had approached Mr Mariano Browne about trying to persuade those entities to re-invest,” she said. “When the Prime Minister called him in, the Prime Minister asked him if it is accurate that he had been approached and he said yes.” It was unclear how the Prime Minister knew Browne had been approached.
When she first learnt of the troubles at CLF, which she said was on January 14, 2009, Nunez-Tesheira contacted the then Prime Minister.
“The first thing I would have done is speak to the Prime Minister. I would have spoken to him about what I discovered and look for guidance,” she said.
Of the Central Bank Governor, Nunez-Tesheira said she never took steps to investigate what went wrong in terms of regulation of CLF.
“I had a lot of confidence in the Governor and I have no reason to indicate otherwise,” Nunez-Tesheira said. “Why would I do a forensic investigation?”
Of the January 30, Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) drawn-up after meetings of CLF officials, Nunez-Tesheira said, “It was done with a lack of information. CLF was less than forthcoming with giving us their portfolio.” Eventually, at one meeting in January 2008, former CLF corporate secretary Gita Sakal gave the game away.
“After going around in circles and they being less than forthcoming, Sakal said words to the effect that ‘the game is over. Forget it we don’t have any assets to sell’,” Nunez-Tesheira said. At the same time, at a similar pre-MoU signing meeting, Duprey, was “wheeling and dealing.”
“What struck me at that meeting was that there was no question of a credit line or of handing over money to CLF as the crisis had less to do the with global economic situation and more to do with mismanagement,” she said. “It seemed to me that Mr Duprey did not understand the gravity of the situation and he was still wheeling and dealing,” she said. “I was in utter amazement to hear Mr Duprey speaking in that manner and that he still wanted to cut a deal.”
Even after the MoU was signed, things were hidden. The sale of Clico Energy was not disclosed.
“That was never disclosed to us,” Nunez-Tesheira said. “They had not only sold their share but they had sold the share they held in trust.” She said the State was not even aware that CLF held shares in the company as it had not been disclosed on a list of assets.
She noted already disclosed reports that she refused to give in to pressure to allow former CLF officials to be able to take out their money as “Third Parties” under the MoU.
“Mr Monteil and all of those who fell into that category did not benefit from that proposal,” she said. “The Government did not give a line of credit....You cannot take taxpayers dollars and hand it over to these people. I could not defend it as a minister. It would not reflect well on the Ministry.”
Of Angostura, she noted that, “Angostura Holdings had been mismanaged.” The profits of that company had been pumped into CLF.
Of CLF generally, she noted the need for more regulation
Country_Bookie wrote:^Then you get paid in government bonds. Bonds which mature in 1-10 years can be sold to any of the commercial banks. Bonds which mature in 11-20 yrs can be exchanged for shares in NEL 2, which is a holding company for CLICO's shares in RBL.
sk1111 wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:^Then you get paid in government bonds. Bonds which mature in 1-10 years can be sold to any of the commercial banks. Bonds which mature in 11-20 yrs can be exchanged for shares in NEL 2, which is a holding company for CLICO's shares in RBL.
OK, thank you for the answer. Any word on when we're suppose to send in paperwork ?
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