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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby *$kїđž!™ » November 26th, 2011, 3:00 am

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Muslims 'uneasy' over plot against Kamla
Story Created: Nov 25, 2011 at 10:56 PM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 25, 2011 at 10:56 PM ECT
THE State is being called upon to identify which Islamic organisation is alleged to be involved in a plot to assassinate Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and several senior government ministers.
General secretary of the Trinidad Muslim League (TML), Azid Ali, said yesterday his and other organisations are "uneasy" over the possibility that Muslims from a local group are behind the plan.
"That situation definitely has us uneasy," Ali said, in a telephone interview yesterday.
"I think they (the government) definitely have to clarify which particular group they have held members of and are questioning. This reflects badly on all of us Muslims. It not only tarnishes the image of those groups allegedly involved but on all Muslims."
Details of the planned assassination have been scarce since Persad-Bissessar announced on Thursday that security forces are on high alert since uncovering the plot.
On Wednesday, police arrested Selwyn 'Robocop' Alexis for his alleged connection to the plot, which security sources on Wednesday told the Express had targeted the PM, Attorney General, Anand Ramlogan, National Security Minister, Brigadier John Sandy, Foreign Affairs Minister, Dr. Surujrattan Rambachan, several others ministers and several senior police officers.
Several people arrested in connection with the plot are said to be practicing Muslims and a senior government minister on Wednesday also said the plot had its source in an "extremist fringe group".
Ali said Islam does not condone the activities those being held are accused of and if the allegations are true, then the so-called Muslims being questioned are "out of the scope of Islam".
He said local Muslims are so far thankful that Trinidad and Tobago culture does not foster religious intolerance and backlash from accusations such as these.
"We hope it stays that way," Ali said.
He added that his organisation has so far not been privy to any evidence that the allegations being made by the state are true.
"But we would be concerned, whether the allegations were made against Muslims or non-Muslims," Ali said.
On Thursday, some Muslims in Central Trinidad complained of being "branded" in a negative fashion, in light of the alleged plot.
Ali said he was not familiar with the problems being experienced by some Central Muslims, though he understands searches have been conducted at mosques and Islamic centres not only in Central Trinidad but other parts of the country. —Kim Boodram

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 26th, 2011, 7:20 am

some much other prime ministers did more sheit than Kamliar doing and they wanna kill she,steupse...

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby Sky » November 26th, 2011, 8:02 am

Sorry to say, but this is what we get when we elect a woman. Nonstop drama. We're not supposed to know about these activities. This is supposed to be a secret, those suspects are lost in jail when found guilty and the country moves on. But madame PM and the PP love drama and gallery. See what Panday said? It happened to him a number of times and it was hush hush. Countries hide stuff like this. The US goes to great lengths to hide that sort of stuff. But nooooooo, A woman in charge and all sorts of files bussin to give us a show. Now I'm not blaming her for inciting the drama, because the men around her make more noise than her. But she's not telling them to stfu, and she's supposed to be.

Any time spent letting the public know things they really shouldn't, is time wasted and not doing their job.
PP is wasting a lot of time and they should be seasoned by now. I'm seeing more campaigning for the next general election than positive movements for the country, which is bad.

Now I'm not disputing the alleged attempts at all because it's much more likely than not. When you're a leader you always piss off some of the people some of the time. Manning pissed off all of the people all of the time, but he knew who was dangerous and favoured them. Too bad he didn't know the voters were the most effective.

Btw, why allyuh on Rowley case? She call the man personally and he agrees with her, truth or not.

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby 5onDfloor » November 26th, 2011, 9:37 am

5onDfloor wrote:
Scoobert Bauce wrote:
5onDfloor wrote:A senior Government source said: "This assassination plot, the security forces have stated, is based on the anger of some criminals because of the imposition of the SoE, which was effective. This plot is a well-orchestrted plan to show that the State of Emergency was a dismal failure and an attempt to destabilise the Government."

^^

Can somebody remind me of the effectiveness of this SOE. Why waste time and effort to prove what is already widely considered from all corners that this SOE had lukewarm results if not just short of a complete failure. The only people who has been branding the SOE as a success is Kamla and her supporters :?

and the only ppl complaining are Rowley and his supporters. Point?


You need to take off them blinders son.


Scoobert Bauce,

To emphasize my point
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/4od/player/3259570

what say you now.

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby shogun » November 26th, 2011, 6:47 pm

^lol. i guess nothing


people so myopic in this place, it ain't funny.

You can't disagree with the SOE/cufew, or it would seem ANY government policy, or you're branded as a PNMite/Rowley supporter, or involved in some kind of criminal activity....then they talk about "3rd world mentality"...i ask, what's more 3rd world, than blindly believing/obeying ANY administration, without questioning?

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby AllTrac » November 26th, 2011, 10:29 pm

Sky wrote:Sorry to say, but this is what we get when we elect a woman. Nonstop drama. We're not supposed to know about these activities. This is supposed to be a secret, those suspects are lost in jail when found guilty and the country moves on.



THIS :!:

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby Habit7 » November 26th, 2011, 10:42 pm

Oh Kamla, you too funny


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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby Irfy » November 26th, 2011, 11:19 pm

I hear men gettin charge for treason left right and center. Court cases startin next week.

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby pioneer » November 26th, 2011, 11:23 pm

Irfy wrote:I hear men gettin charge for treason left right and center. Court cases startin next week.


Amazing Reshmi Ramnarine didn't get charged for treason for what she did.

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby wagonrunner » November 26th, 2011, 11:37 pm

pioneer wrote:
Irfy wrote:I hear men gettin charge for treason left right and center. Court cases startin next week.

Amazing Reshmi Ramnarine didn't get charged for treason for what she did.

With all the acclaim they gave her i surprised Reshmi Day is not now on the calender?

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby Irfy » November 26th, 2011, 11:45 pm

Ent. I have no idea what proof they have on their 13 captives (I dunno if it went up/down so doh bawl if numbers off). And I dunno if all getting the charge but I know somebody who have a case. I would expect that they trying to drop treason on some of them. And then again, if the government allegation was wrong, they get away scoff free because the country in a SoE and they can do whatever they want. Or am I wrong?

I jus so disappointed with this.

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby pioneer » November 26th, 2011, 11:45 pm

She did in fact break oath of office and compromise national security, so what happens there?

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby Morpheus » November 27th, 2011, 12:14 am

Scoobert Bauce,

To emphasize my point
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/4od/player/3259570

what say you now.[/quote]

^^ That really sad yes :|

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby Trini Hookah » November 27th, 2011, 1:02 am

Good to see where the concern of the nation lies.

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby pioneer » November 27th, 2011, 1:08 am

wait...will smith is here?

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby Stephon. » November 27th, 2011, 1:10 am

Old Smith. He was in 51 degrees too.

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby lostallos101 » November 27th, 2011, 2:54 am

fresh prince...wah he doing here???

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby Irfy » November 27th, 2011, 3:49 am

THREAT IS REAL
Amid disbelief about assasination plot, Sandy breaks silence:

By Akile Simon
Story Created: Nov 27, 2011 at 2:07 AM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 27, 2011 at 2:07 AM ECT
"The threat is real and I am saddened to learn that some people who ought to know better are trivialising it."
These were the words of National Security Minister Brigadier John Sandy in a response he sent to the Sunday Express yesterday regarding the alleged assassination plot against Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and three Cabinet Ministers.
Yesterday was the first time Sandy commented on the issue since it came to the forefront last week.
Sandy's response came on the heels of statements made by Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley during a press briefing he hosted last Friday Tower D at the International Waterfront.
Rowley described the Government's response to the alleged plot as "hysterical political expediency".
"The action is overkill and is meant to send a signal that the Government is treating with a very serious matter in a way, not to bring about successful prosecution, but to bring about political sympathy," Rowley said.
He also lashed out at Sandy, accusing him of remaining silent on such a matter of national security.
Rowley said one could not help but notice the "pusillanimous silence" of Sandy and called on the Minister to state where the country stood on the matter with respect to "information, evidence, arrest and charge" and "not hide behind the skirt-tail of the Prime Minister". He also called on Sandy to provide the country with adequate, satisfactory and believable information to justify the action the Government has taken to date on the alleged threat.
But Sandy, in a text message response to enquiries from the Sunday Express, said yesterday he was satisfied with the statement made on the matter by Persad-Bissessar in her capacity of chairman of the National Security Council. Sandy also maintained that the threat is real.
"... The PM as head of the Nat Sec Council made a public statement and we answered questions from the Press. There is not much more I can say having regard to the fact that police operations are ongoing and they remain the appropriate source to divulge further information.
"I can only confirm that the threat is real and I am saddened to learn of some people who ought to know better are trivialising it," Sandy said.
Rowley also stated publicity of the "new and elevated plot" has come in the dying stages of a State of Emergency "even as the initial plot (which led to the calling of the State of Emergency on August 21) remains a secret and unexplained". The SoE ends on December 5.
There have criticisms and disbelief by several organisations and members of the public who have described the threats as a political "smokescreen" by the Government.
Commissioner of Police Dwayne Gibbs and Deputy Commissioner Mervyn Richardson, head of Anti-Crime Operations and senior intelligence officers, have described the alleged threat as real in nature and one that had nothing to do with politics.
They have also refused to divulge any further information citing it could compromise their investigations.
On Thursday, Persad-Bissessar, during the weekly post-Cabinet press briefing, confirmed reports that she and three members of her Cabinet were the subjects of an assassination plot. She then described the alleged plot as an "evil, devious act of treason".
Up to late yesterday, 13 suspects, among them a police sergeant and two ex-members of the Defence Force, one of them who was freed in a high-profile murder trail, remained in police custody.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/THR ... 48878.html

EXPERTS LED PLOT TO KILL KAMLA
By NALINEE SEELAL Sunday, November 27 2011

The hunt is on for high-powered sniper rifles which were to be used in the assassination attempt of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and two members of her Cabinet.

The rifles were part of a cache of arms secretly brought into this country, and which were reportedly used in the target training practise at a secret camp in east Trinidad by three rogue ex-soldiers, who are now in custody assisting in the probe into the assassination attempt.

The three ex-soldiers, two of whom worked in the Defence Force and the other, a Coast Guardsman, were dishonourably discharged from the army and Coast Guard after they were found to be in possession of illegal arms, ammunition and drugs.

The three, who had over 15 years service, are all trained marksmen, and according to intelligence sources, were the actual trainers for the persons who were supposed to carry out the assassination attempt on the Prime Minister and two other Cabinet ministers.

One of the ex-soldiers detained has a farm in east Trinidad, and police believe that he was using it as a cover for the illegal trading of arms and ammunition. His farm is close to where a secret camp was found by law enforcement officers recently, and where several spent shells as well as paper targets were found.

That ex-soldier was up until yesterday in a cell at the Central Police Station in Port-of-Spain, where he is being heavily guarded. The ex-soldier has denied any involvement in an assassination plot.

Police have also detained a Trinidadian man, 30 years old, from the El Socorro, San Juan area who worked as a soldier in the US Army. That man was detained on Thursday and was up until yesterday being questioned in connection with the assassination plot.

Yesterday, Chief of Defence Staff, Brig Kenrick Maharaj, told Sunday Newsday that every effort is being made to verify if any law enforcement officer still on active duty is linked to this assassination attempt. He said intelligence officers are at this time trying to verify this.

“At this point in time we are engaged in a comprehensive investigation in both the police and Defence Force with respect to any other persons who may be involved in this assassination plot, or any other criminal activities,” Maharaj said in a telephone interview.

He commended officers who have been working round the clock to bring closure to this probe, and maintained that the Trinidad and Tobago Defence Force and other arms of the military remain committed to preserving law and order.

Thirteen persons have so far been detained in connection with the assassination plot and police hope to lay charges against some of the detained shortly. Apart from the men with local military backgrounds, four businessmen, an ex-soldier with the US Army, two police sergeants and three others have also been detained.

A secret camp which police believe was used to train persons involved in the assassination plot was discovered last week, and the country remained on high alert yesterday.

The assassination attempt was supposed to take place on Thursday following the Cabinet meeting, and the persons targeted were Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, and Minister of Housing and Environment Roodal Moonilal.

The plot was discovered two weeks ago by Special Branch officers, and the first person to be detained in connection with the plot was a central businessman last Monday.

Sunday Newsday was reliably informed yesterday that more persons allegedly involved in the assassination plot are to be detained under an authorisation order.

Yesterday, Deputy Police Commissioner Mervyn Richardson told Sunday Newsday that the investigation into the assassination plot is well underway, and officers are working round the clock to bring closure to the investigation. He pointed out that police officers will be carrying out searches, roadblocks and exercises as part of the attempt to flush out criminal elements, not only linked to the assassination plot, but those involved in other criminal activities.

A security blanket has been placed over the residence of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, and new security arrangements made for her and other Cabinet colleagues in wake of the assassination plot.

http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,151308.html

Express was lacking info so I check out Newsday and look thing. :shock:
I wonder if this gonna be sum like the movie "Shooter"... :?

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby hustla_ambition101 » November 27th, 2011, 6:15 am

So who are the Ministers, everyday you're hearing something different

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 27th, 2011, 6:57 am

pioneer wrote:wait...will smith is here?

:shock:


only for the weekend....

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 27th, 2011, 7:00 am

hustla_ambition101 wrote:So who are the Ministers, everyday you're hearing something different


I only know about Rudy Indarsingh,C.Sharma and Gopeesingh...

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Postby Soundwave » November 27th, 2011, 9:40 am

hustla_ambition101 wrote:So who are the Ministers, everyday you're hearing something different

everyday they're shufflin...

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Postby K74T » November 27th, 2011, 10:18 am

:rofl:

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Postby TriP » November 27th, 2011, 10:33 am

the PNM an dem having a wail of a time with this assassination ..is only laughs for so..!! :lol:

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Money transfer outlet fingered in major gun shipment

Postby redmanjp » November 27th, 2011, 11:24 am

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2011/11/27/money-transfer-outlet-fingered-major-gun-shipment

Money transfer outlet fingered in major gun shipment
Published: Sun, 2011-11-27 20:59
Anika Gumbs-Sandiford

A wireless money transfer is said to be the source of funds allegedly used to finance a tranche of high profile rifles shipped to T&T. Well placed sources revealed to Sunday Guardian that the alleged shipment of rifles was being paid for via transactions at money transfer outlets. These outlets—located throughout T&T—are being watched, sources said. Sunday Guardian learnt that following reports of money laundering, one money transfer agency only recently implemented a maximum of US$1,000 daily rate transaction. The massive shipment of rifles is alleged to be the reason behind Government’s decision to implement the state of emergency (SoE). However, Minister of National Security John Sandy had earlier denied this claim when the SoE was implemented.

The transactions, Sunday Guardian learnt, were being monitored for some time and was reportedly averted by the SoE. Responding to the allegations yesterday, the vice president of marketing at a certain money transfer agency told Sunday Guardian that while the company cannot determine what money transactions are used for, strict adherence to compliance—“both in sending and receiving government jurisdictions”—are followed. The spokesman stated that remittance companies comply with all requirements of Central Banks and perform their duties under specifications from central authorities. Illegal transactions, the spokesman added, are difficult to transmit through remittance services due mainly in part to its sphere of reference and its close monitoring and its checks and balances procedures.

He further stated that the service is not used to facilitate illicit transactions because of the following reasons:

• Our average size transaction is US$300

• We have strong source of fund and know your customer prescribed requirements before any send transaction is made

• The agency has strong monitoring tools to detect trends and patterns in transfers leaving and entering Trinidad and Tobago

• We work closely with our regulators and the designated authorities

• We monitors unusual transactions and complies with local authorities

However, checks at the particular money transfer outlets revealed that there is no maximum limit to the wiring of funds.

While customers are not privy to know the maximum limit of funds allowed to transfer, an official disclosed, customers making large transactions must submit the source of funds. “We do not have a maximum limit—what we have is a large principle amount. We cannot give out that information because customers would find a way to go around it.” To send over that border, documents must be sent to the international money transfer agent and an invoice explaining the reason for sending the money is requested, the spokesman said. “When a customer states what their transfer entails, we inform them of what is needed. It also depends on where the money is being sent,” the company official added. One customer reportedly transferred up to US$7,000 in one transaction at the money transfer outlet.

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Re: Money transfer outlet fingered in major gun shipment

Postby Paullct » November 27th, 2011, 11:37 am

hehe fingered :oops: tehe

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Postby lostallos101 » November 27th, 2011, 8:55 pm

this just gets more and more interesting...

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Postby K74T » November 27th, 2011, 11:49 pm

THIRD former SOLDIER HELD
Four ex-Defence Force officers among 14 arrested in alleged plot to kill PM
By Akile Simon

Story Created: Nov 27, 2011 at 10:49 PM ECT

Story Updated: Nov 27, 2011 at 10:49 PM ECT

ANOTHER former member of the Trinidad and Tobago Defence Force has been arrested by police in connection with the alleged assassination plot against Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and three Cabinet members.

The 30-year-old suspect, who lives at Picton Road, Laventille, was yesterday described by police as one of the main 'shooters' for the gang.

The arrest brings to four the total number of ex-members of the Defence Force held in connection with the alleged plot to assassinate Persad-Bissessar, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, Housing Minister Dr Roodal Moonilal and Local Government Minister Chandresh Sharma. They are three ex-soldiers, one of whom was set free in a high-profile murder trial, and a former coast guard officer.

The latest arrest also brings the number of persons in police custody since last week in connection with the alleged plot to 14, among them a police sergeant, Selwyn "Robocop" Alexis and businessman Khalil Karamath, the son of deceased contractor Hafeez Karamath.

Police stations throughout the country have also been listed as potential targets in the alleged plot as well as several senior police officers.

Commenting on the latest arrest, National Security Minister Brigadier John Sandy yesterday assured that even though the ex-soldiers would have been trained by the army, should they decide to fight against the military, it would be a losing battle for them.

Sandy was speaking with reporters after attending a service at the Poonah Open Bible Miracle Centre in Williamsville.

The ex-soldier held on Saturday night, police said, was dishonourably discharged from the Army last year after he was arrested by police and charged with an alleged robbery in South Trinidad.

Police held the suspect in a vehicle during a roadblock exercise along the Lady Young Road in Belmont on Saturday night, which was coordinated by Snr Supt Glen Hackett, head of the Port of Spain CID and supervised by Insp Sahadeo Singh and Insp Williams of the Besson Street CID.

He was taken into custody and later handed over to the special team of officers probing the alleged plot.

On August 29, days after the State of Emergency and limited curfew restrictions were announced by Persad-Bissessar, a police exercise at Picton Road, led by Insp Singh, resulted in the seizure of a rifle, genuine military uniforms, ammunition and other contraband items.

On that day, 22 suspects were taken into custody by police, 18 of them allegedly linked to the Picton Road gang.

Police said they found a Venezuela-made FAL high-powered rifle, two military bullet-proof vests, 257 rounds of assorted ammunition, several ski masks, genuine military camouflage uniforms, firearm holsters and a quantity of marijuana.

The items police said, were discovered buried near the ex-soldier's home off Picton Road.

The 18 alleged gang members were later charged by police under the Anti-Gang Act, but were subsequently freed after Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard discontinued the matters against them because of insufficient evidence.

The ex-soldier, police said, had been on the run from the law since and wasn't caught until Saturday night during a roadblock exercise.

During the exercise, police issued 30 fixed penalty traffic offence tickets to errant motorists and arrested four persons for allegedly being in possession of marijuana.

The exercise involved close to 40 police officers from the Special Anti-Crime Unit's Canine Unit, the Police Service Canine Unit, the Guard and Emergency and Court and Process Branch, Inter-Agency Task Force, Trinidad and Tobago Defence Force, Port of Spain CID, Criminal Records Office, Stolen Vehicles' Squad and the Port of Spain Division.

Police are searching for an undisclosed number of persons who have been described as "middlemen" in the alleged plot.

The suspects at large are said to be linked to a radical Muslim group based in Central Trinidad and are members of the Picton Road, Laventille, and other criminal gangs.


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/THIRD__former_SOLDIER__HELD-134571898.html

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Re: Plot to assassinate PM?!

Postby lostallos101 » November 28th, 2011, 12:10 am

what i really wanna know...if this was real...what was their end game?? what would be the point of it?? what were they trying to achieve??

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Postby *$kїđž!™ » November 28th, 2011, 12:25 am

Detention of Islamic scholar puzzles followers
Story Created: Nov 27, 2011 at 2:07 AM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 27, 2011 at 2:07 AM ECT
AMONG the people detained in connection with the alleged plot to kill Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and three ministers is an Islamic scholar.
He is also the principal of the Darul Qur'an Wal Hadith Islamic School, of Calcutta No 2, Freeport. He is married, in his early 50s, with a son, and daughter who died recently of cancer.
He studied in Saudi Arabia and while his khutbahs (sermons) are considered controversial, many in the Islamic community said they were shocked to learn of the man's arrest.
Many said he was incapable of the assassination allegations being made by Persad-Bissessar and Police Commissioner Dwayne Gibbs.
At the family home at Mathilda Village, Princes Town, the man's son said he was told not to speak about his father's detention at a police station in north Trinidad, after his arrest on Monday.
However, many in the community said while his kuthbahs (sermons) were controversial, he was no threat.
Umar Abdullah, head of the Waajihatul Islaamiyyah (Islamic Front) said the man could be considered "moderate' in his views.
"He would have nothing to do with this kind of thing. There is nothing tangible in this (and) the government is grasping at straws and our brothers are being held against their will."
At the Islamic private school Friday, an official told the Sunday Express the claims being made about the principal were "ridiculous".
The official said, "This man's life has been seeing about the school and teachers. It is about educating the children to become good and disciplined Muslims."
The official said: "We are baffled by this. He is here every day of the week from 7 a.m to 2 p.m. When will he have time to do anything? We have been doing dua (prayers) for him constantly, the staff and the children. This is a good and helpful person. It must be a mistake."

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