Mazda 2012 vs Ranger 2012 - Heavy T Needed for both

lighthammer · Postby **lighthammer** » May 10th, 2012, 9:46 am

aceinghit wrote:the Hilux will take the #2 spot followed by the L200 Sportero then the Navara.

Uhh... not, not in terms of power/performance.
From what you posted on your figures, it's Navara>sportero>hilux - in terms of pure figures on paper.

In real life, it's a different story eh.
- Navara has most power, but has shortest gear ratios (the manual has 6-speed, but the gear ratios are very short)
- Hilux is smoothest ride and smoothest delivery with earliest torque delivery (1600rpm you get almost full torque, by 2000RPM you have full torque).. but is least powerful. We recently used a 3.0 D4D 1KD-FTV hilux to tow a trailer with a car on it - the hilux was sluggish and you felt the strain.
- Sportero has biggest displacement, so the torque curve is most linear, but it's got a more sluggish take-off, at least the one that I test drove.

civic minded · Postby **civic minded** » May 10th, 2012, 6:06 pm

Hear what - you going to buy a blasted pickup to do what exactly? to race with it? to tote a car? You just want something diesel to go to work with, maybe throw some bags of cement in the tray. Buy something that is practical and in your budget.
If you want to spend 300K on a pickup, chances are your not gonna use it to carry around cattle in the back, or tote construction materials to build a house. So whats the point exactly if your not going to do that and buy a pickup? Your better off spending that on a new Forester or a Sportage or something

Watch something when the govt remove the fuel subsidy everyone will rush to buy a 1.3L yaris

venum · Postby **venum** » May 10th, 2012, 6:26 pm

civic minded wrote:Watch something when the govt remove the fuel subsidy everyone will rush to buy a 1.3L yaris

Dude . . . 1.2L March . . . FTW

to each his own I suppose

if you want to buy a 500k pickup to go for bread every evening - go strong

if you want to beat it up - go ahead and beat the crap outta it

so what is range suspension :?:

civic minded · Postby **civic minded** » May 10th, 2012, 6:32 pm

^^ that's when you bend your back from two foot to 4

Postby **wagon r** » May 10th, 2012, 7:21 pm

...men arguing on diff types and which one better.....i just want to get back a van... :neutral:

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tourniquet · Postby **tourniquet** » May 10th, 2012, 8:47 pm

civic minded wrote:Hear what - you going to buy a blasted pickup to do what exactly? to race with it? to tote a car? You just want something diesel to go to work with, maybe throw some bags of cement in the tray. Buy something that is practical and in your budget.
If you want to spend 300K on a pickup, chances are your not gonna use it to carry around cattle in the back, or tote construction materials to build a house. So whats the point exactly if your not going to do that and buy a pickup? Your better off spending that on a new Forester or a Sportage or something

Watch something when the govt remove the fuel subsidy everyone will rush to buy a 1.3L yaris

No, they haul them on the inside 8-)

hot-tie00 · Postby **hot-tie00** » May 11th, 2012, 1:36 pm

what allyuh fail to reailze is that yea the ford big and bad but take a good look at it...cheaply made interior and exterior....no match for d navara n hilux in terms of quality....also TTTL will be bringing out a limited edition 2012 later this year it will cost about d same as the 3.2 L ranger