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New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby redmanjp » May 15th, 2012, 10:51 pm

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/324934

New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune — Nibiru?

By JohnThomas Didymus
May 15, 2012 - 8 hours ago in Science

Rio De Janeiro - A Brazilian astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, Rodney Gomes, has announced that there may be an undiscovered rogue planet lurking in the shadow of Neptune. Planet Nibiru watchers say the planet is Nibiru.
According to Gomes, presenting his findings Tuesday at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Timberline Lodge, Oregon, calculations show that about half a dozen kuiper belt objects are in strange orbits, that is, they are orbiting not where they are supposed to be, according to existing models of our solar system.
Gomes said that the the strange orbits have only few possible explanations. According to National Geographic, he said: "I think the easiest one is a planetary-mass solar companion."
National Geographic explains that, "a planetary-mass solar companion" is a planet that orbits very far out from the sun but that's massive enough to be having gravitational effects on Kuiper belt objects."
Kuiper belt objects are small icy bodies—including some dwarf planets—that lie beyond the orbit of Neptune. They are too far to be easily seen with telescopes. Pluto, about 1,400 miles wide, once considered the ninth planet of our solar system, is now considered one of the largest Kuiper belt objects. Astronomers are discovering in the kuiper belt, dozens of other objects hundreds of miles across.
Gomes's theory is that the unseen planet he proposes is making its presence felt by disturbing the orbits of Kuiper belt objects.
According to National Geographic, Gomes came to the conclusion that a rogue planet may be lying beyond Neptune after he analyzed orbits of 92 kuiper belt objects and compared the result to computer simulations of how the bodies should be orbiting if there were no additional planet.

Gomes said that in simulation models in which there was no distant rogue planet, no elongated orbits for six of the kuiper objects was observed.
Gomes then tried to estimate the size of the proposed rogue planet. Basing his speculation on calculations, he said that the rogue planet is probably a Neptune-size world about four times bigger than the Earth and it is orbiting at about 140 billion miles (225 billion kilometers) away from the Sun. This, according to National Geographic, is 1,500 times farther away from the Sun than the Earth.
But the analysis is complicated by the fact that a Mars-size object that sweeps about 5 billion miles closer to the Sun in highly elongated orbit would have a similar effect as a Neptune-size world.

Gomes speculates that the planet could have been kicked out of its own star system and later captured by the Sun's gravity. Alternatively, the planet could once have been part of our solar system, but kicked out by gravitation interaction with other planets.
The astronomer says that locating the planet would be difficult because it would be a very dim astronomical object, and also because calculations give very little information of its possible location, so astronomers do not know where to point their telescopes.

Mixed Reactions

National Geographic reports that while his scientific colleagues are intrigued by Gomes's calculations, they say they need more proof before his theory can be incorporated into our scientific picture of the solar system.
Rory Barnes, astronomer at the University of Washington, said: "Obviously, finding another planet in the solar system is a big deal [but] I don't think he really has any evidence that suggests it is out there."

Barnes said what Gomes has done, instead, is that he "has laid out a way to determine how such a planet could sculpt parts of our solar system. So while, yes, the evidence doesn't exist yet, I thought the bigger point was that he showed us that there are ways to find that evidence."

National Geographic reports that Douglas Hamilton, astronomer at the University of Maryland, agrees with Barnes. He said: "What he showed in his probability arguments is that it's slightly more likely. He doesn't have a smoking gun yet."

Planet Nibiru speculation revived on the Web

While scientists have greeted Gomes's calculations and conclusions with caution, Planet X/Nibiru doomsday soothsayers are spreading the news that a Brazilian astronomer has discovered Planet Nibiru. According to Skeptical Inquirer, Planet Nibiru 2012 doomsday prophets say that Planet Nibiru, "a rogue planet on a 3,600-year orbit is about to enter the inner solar system and visit a catastrophe upon Earth. This threatening planet was discovered by the ancient Mesopotamians, who named it Nibiru. It was known also to the Mayans, who associated it with the end—December 2012—of their 'long count' calendar. [According to the doomsday prophets] although astronomers and space scientists are tracking Nibiru, this information is being kept from the public as part of a worldwide conspiracy. This official silence cannot be maintained for much longer..."

The website Occupy Illuminati, for instance, announces: "An astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, named Rodney Gomes (mark this name, he may be making history), affirms he found a rogue planet hidden behind Neptune, that by his calculations could just fit in the depictions of NIBIRU."
According to the website, the object "Nibiru" could even be an artificial object, that is a massive alien mothership. The websight gives its insight: "If he’s (Gomes) correct, this could be the astronomical find that finally corroborates the translations of Sumerians tablets made by Zecharia Sitchin. The intriguing part is how this object is keeping itself hidden from Earth telescopes... Perhaps it’s not really a planet… Perhaps it’s artificial in nature..."

A discussion on the site Above Top Secrets follows: A contributor, Alfa1, says: "The proposed object has nothing at all in common with the alleged NIBIRU. The astronomer does NOT 'claim to have found' anything at all. He's saying something might possibly exist."
Just Chris responds: "But the article doesn't once mention that it may or may not be Nibiru, just a rogue planet with a size similar to Pluto. Doesn't exactly fit NIBIRU descriptions. With that in mind however, will be interesting to see what comes of this?"
But another commenter appears convinced this could be Nibiru: 1AnunnakiBastard, said: "YES it has to do with Nibiru, concerning the elongated orbit and the way it disturbs the objects in the Kuiper belt, and YES the astronomer claim have found something behind Neptune, and his speculation is only about the nature of the object." 1AnunnakiBastard, adds: It's my own reasoning that it COULD BE the same object from Sumerian genesis. And I assume you didn't read the whole article because he states the object could be 4 times bigger than Earth, was dragged into our Sun's orbit with a very elongated path. Well, IMO this has a big chance of being a candidate to Nibiru."

Another commenter on the website The Truth Behind the Scenes is certain the Nibiru has been found at last: "And so we come back to Nibiru.The very topic which first brought me to this site.Yes, indeed, she’s out there. Thats not actually in doubt any more, there’s simply to much evidence to support the existence."

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby sharkman121 » May 15th, 2012, 11:05 pm

History is being re written every day

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby ek4ever » May 15th, 2012, 11:10 pm

This is great news. I've been really depressed since Pluto lost its planet status.

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby sharkman121 » May 15th, 2012, 11:12 pm

^ :lol:

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby Trini Hookah » May 15th, 2012, 11:14 pm

After reading this i'm unbelievably bummy.

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 15th, 2012, 11:29 pm

there is alot of stuff floating outside there that they don't teach you in science class

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what makes this new discovery interesting though is its size. Even if it is not as huge as Neptune and more about the size of Mars, it would still be something!

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby ~Vēġó~ » May 16th, 2012, 5:45 am

very interesting.....

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby Sky » May 16th, 2012, 8:56 am

Ohhhh Pluto's gonna be pissed!!!

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 16th, 2012, 9:09 am

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby Hook » May 16th, 2012, 9:21 am

ek4ever wrote:This is great news. I've been really depressed since Pluto lost its planet status.

I know that feel bro *bro hugs* (no homo)

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby dougla_boy » May 16th, 2012, 9:58 am

i just love me some science.......

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby redmanjp » May 16th, 2012, 11:57 pm

so they found 'Nibiru' but the new mayan calendar goes yrs into the future- so we have some time then

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby pyung99 » May 17th, 2012, 12:30 am

soon...

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby X2 » May 17th, 2012, 1:21 am

They don't teach it in science class... but they do teach you a lot in astronomy classes. You don't need to know that much before tertiary education.

redmanjp wrote:so they found 'Nibiru' but the new mayan calendar goes yrs into the future- so we have some time then



The mayan calender does not say its the end of the planet, it is a cyclical event that has happened before and will happen again. They could mean it's the 'end of the world as we know it'.... Life is inevitable once the universe moves along. There is the theory that Mars was once able to sustain life... that could mean that it was once a life sustaining Class M planet that was pulled out of orbit millions of years ago due to abnormal gravitational effects (planet sized body passing thru our solar system). If so, it would take thousands, if not millions of years for orbits to stabilize, making it possible for a catastrophic event, end of all life and re-emergence of life much later on... again, a cyclical event. The possibility of a 'Nibiru' passing thru the system every 3600 years also does not necessarily mean that the orbit of this 'hidden planet' is on the same axis as earth... so it may not actually intersect our orbit or the orbit of any particular planet in our system.... nonetheless, the gravitational effects would be massive... not only could it affect our weather, atmosphere, etc... it could also bring with it large objects that will be hurdling thru space... like bullets that will hit whatever is in their paths. It wouldn't take a very big rock or asteroid to ruin our whole day.

The claim of a artificial planet ... however... is a pretty crazy concept (death star !)... but then again... some versions or translations of religious text speak about people riding on chariots of fire, etc.... as they ascend to heaven.... oh man... nibiru and the annunaki stories are going to be coming back out of the woodwork now ! Lizard people, dragons, giants.. hollywood just got their new scripts lined up again.

But I do know this... in the end days... the surfing will be epic !

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Re: New study: Rogue planet may be lurking beyond Neptune

Postby wagonrunner » May 17th, 2012, 3:24 pm

X2 wrote:But I do know this... in the end days... the surfing will be epic !



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