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Re: The | Apple Inc. | Thread

Postby Strauss » June 12th, 2012, 2:58 pm

src1983 wrote:But will we get turn by turn directions that is the question


Might take time to get to us here.
Remember we have one official carrier (two soon), and Apple would eventually extend all their services to T&T.

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Postby src1983 » June 12th, 2012, 3:35 pm

Strauss wrote:
src1983 wrote:But will we get turn by turn directions that is the question


Might take time to get to us here.
Remember we have one official carrier (two soon), and Apple would eventually extend all their services to T&T.


Digicel planning on offering iPhones??

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Postby firstchoicett » June 12th, 2012, 3:42 pm

src1983 wrote:
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src1983 wrote:But will we get turn by turn directions that is the question


Might take time to get to us here.
Remember we have one official carrier (two soon), and Apple would eventually extend all their services to T&T.


Digicel planning on offering iPhones??

yea.

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Postby iDynamic » June 12th, 2012, 3:52 pm

SRASC wrote:Looks like there were a few UI changes in iOS 6 after all.

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more to come



Are you using the beta ios 6 firmware ?? I'm thinking about trying it out

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Postby bolo23 » June 12th, 2012, 4:52 pm

fellas will let yall know how the mbp is, i ordered one last night it should take about 3 weeks to reach i will give my review and post some pics when it comes

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Postby iDynamic » June 12th, 2012, 4:56 pm

bolo23 wrote:fellas will let yall know how the mbp is, i ordered one last night it should take about 3 weeks to reach i will give my review and post some pics when it comes



U ordered the retina one ? ... I was blown away with the demo

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Postby bolo23 » June 12th, 2012, 5:16 pm

yea the 15.4 2.3 ghz with retina and i also upgraded it a little bit, put in 16gb ram, and the super drive will share pics when i receive it

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Postby Parvin » June 12th, 2012, 5:55 pm

^^^

Eh bolo23 ... lend meh yuh credit card dey na bai :D

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Postby bolo23 » June 12th, 2012, 6:00 pm

lol if u want to borrow it you could

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Postby Strauss » June 13th, 2012, 12:09 am

bolo23 wrote:yea the 15.4 2.3 ghz with retina and i also upgraded it a little bit, put in 16gb ram, and the super drive will share pics when i receive it


Sweet!

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Postby src1983 » June 13th, 2012, 7:54 am

Terrible news for iPhone 4 users :cry: :cry: :cry:

Way down in the fine print about Apple's upcoming iOS 6, you'll find a little note that says new features like Flyover and turn-by-turn directions are only available on the iPhone 4S, or the iPad 2 or higher.

A note immediately below that says Siri is only available on the iPhone 4S or third-generation iPad.

Since the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, and iPad 2 are all actively for sale and still being marketed by Apple, I have to wonder: is Apple on the road to fragmenting the iOS experience? Could there come a future when not only do certain Apple apps and services run on some devices and not on others, but when this problem will start to plague third-party developers, as well? And even if app incompatibilities don't result, is Apple risking Android levels of user confusion as it continues to withhold features from its legacy -- but still for sale -- hardware?

This latest slight, keeping turn-by-turn directions off iPhone 4, is especially enraging. It was bad that the iPhone 4 didn't get Siri, much worse that it got no speech to text at all -- not even the little microphone on the keyboard that all Android phones, even the most basic, have. But to withhold turn-by-turn from the iPhone 4 isn't just fragmentation: it's deliberate, aggressive, and abusive forced upgrade behavior.

Sure, the original iPhone 4 is fully two years old -- the 4GB GSM version. You could argue it's just time for folks to upgrade (I'm not a fan of that argument, personally, since it's wasteful if the device works fine, and financially unfeasible for many). But that phone didn't become available on CDMA carriers until February 2011, so some Verizon owners have had it for less than 18 months. The white model didn't come out until April 2011, so fashionistas have had it for barely over a year. And the 8GB model came out in October 2011. That device is less than a year old, and in Apple's OS terms, it's so obsolete it doesn't get speech to text or turn by turn navigation, which have, for the past few years, been the two strongest arguments for getting an Android phone over an iPhone.




Stare lovingly at these helpful directions, iPhone 4 owners. It's Apple's way or the lost highway.


To address, up front, the inevitable argument that the iPhone 4 may not be "capable" of handling turn-by-turn directions (or speech-to-text functionality, for that matter), I will point you not only to any number of midrange Android smart phones (like the same era LG Enlighten) that support both features. I will also point you to any number of iPhone GPS navigation apps that provide turn-by-turn, including the now free MapQuest and the very robust TomTom app, which has been around since the iPhone 3G. And then I will point you to a similar number of voice control apps, like Vlingo. (And in so doing, will solve your problems, too, but that's not the point!)

I'm quite certain the iPhone 4 can handle turn-by-turn and speech functionality. I'm equally certain that Apple kept it out on purpose, and it's not to help out app developers, it's to sell more newer phones, at a clip so fast it makes your head spin. It's a cycle that far outpaces most users' mobile contracts and certainly their wallets. An iPhone is a premium device, and users have a right to expect its features to keep pace with the competition for longer than eight months (in the case of the 8GB iPhone 4).

And Apple now has three versions of the iPhone for sale, each with a different feature set, not to mention three versions of the iPad, each with its own selection of omissions. That's an unusually complicated product scheme for Apple, and customers getting a free 3GS offer or now discounted iPhone 4 are in for a rude surprise when they find that their legacy Apple hardware can't do things that have been baked into every Android phone for years.




Three phones, three different sets of features. How un-Apple of them!


I've written about Android fragmentation before, and many of you know I consider it the biggest threat to that platform's ongoing success. And Android's OS upgrade issues are probably worse than what Apple is currently doing with iOS 6 -- it's closer to differentiation than fragmentation, at least for the moment. And, as one commenter pointed out in a lengthy Google Plus discussion on the topic, you can upgrade your Apple hardware, but you can't force a carrier or Google to upgrade your version of Android.

But a developer writing for iPhone 4S and its processor capabilities could certainly run into problems with the same app on a legacy 3GS, or integrating with mapping features available only on a 4S. Depending on how many versions of the iPhone Apple keeps around after the next version is launched, you can imagine things starting to get awfully messy.

Even if true fragmentation never occurs, leaving the iPhone 4--a perfectly capable and powerful device--in the dust this soon is both unnecessary and inconsiderate. Apple has always pushed a rapid upgrade agenda, but not while continuing the sell the older versions. It's a bad trend, and could backfire as Android and even Windows 8 competition starts to grow. Simplicity works, Apple. Stick with it.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-57451486-256/is-apple-fragmenting-the-iphone/?tag=mncol;topStories

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » June 13th, 2012, 8:19 am

Considering ordering off Amazon: a base retina MBP with superdrive and maybe an adapter for ethernet.
What yall think about the cloud? 256GB SSD will be fast but not sure about space in the long term. Is it practical to save documents, images and maybe some music consistently to the cloud? Can it handle larger files? Digicel 4g made me seriously consider this option but I have limited experience with it.

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Postby Strauss » June 13th, 2012, 8:38 am



Correct information. Bad analysis.

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Postby SRASC » June 13th, 2012, 8:59 am

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iDynamic, nah I not using iOS 6, pics were from a friend who had it at the time but has since went back to iOS 5.1.1. As far as the maps go the imagery & road data are aligned & updated better than what Google was offering for years, but as of now it can't find a single place nor is turn by turn working (iPhone 4S btw). So its sorta like we took 2 steps forward & 1 backward since at least you could search for places using Google Maps.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 13th, 2012, 9:49 am

Aaron 2NR wrote:Not too impressed by the new macbook pro. Personally I prefer my current model since I use my optic drive
you serious?

the thing is thinner, much much faster, better looking, retina is WOW and the USB optical drive is small

what you use your optical drive for?

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Postby firstchoicett » June 13th, 2012, 9:59 am

^ that's some sweet specs I suppose to get my Pro next month .

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Postby Strauss » June 13th, 2012, 11:36 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:what you use your optical drive for?


I remember this same question in 1998 when Apple removed floppy drives and legacy ports (in favor of USB)

...And the world moved on.

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Postby killersuzuki » June 13th, 2012, 11:38 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Aaron 2NR wrote:Not too impressed by the new macbook pro. Personally I prefer my current model since I use my optic drive
you serious?

the thing is thinner, much much faster, better looking, retina is WOW and the USB optical drive is small

what you use your optical drive for?


As a DJ, I would now have to carry an external hard drive for my library of music.....

The new MBP is nice, but I won't be upgrading any time soon. I have the previous MBP 15" with 8 gigs of RAM , a 750GB hard drive, etc......works fine!

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » June 13th, 2012, 12:09 pm

Strauss wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:what you use your optical drive for?


I remember this same question in 1998 when Apple removed floppy drives and legacy ports (in favor of USB)

...And the world moved on.


Except back then floppy discs were easily damaged and had limited space anyway.

Optical media has the only downfall of "being to thick" to put in a thinner laptop. Thats pretty much it. I think they removed it a bit too early on this one. It's why I'll order a superdrive with mine and why they still sell the old mpb.

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Postby casper » June 13th, 2012, 12:59 pm

removing optical drive right now is a big negative to me...

so u mean to tel me that if u happen to have this new macbook as ur ONLY media/entertainment center u cant even play ur pre-owned DVDs or Blue rays on it??? how stupid for an ultra high end machine...its as if they just making all their stuff with NO ONE else in mind other than themselves....cuz if u wanna get music or watch a movie they kinda forcing you to do so via itunes....so after i spend $13,000 + for ur product i cah even do anything with stuff i already own on discs??? i HAVE to go buy $hit on itunes now??? stupesssss

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Postby Strauss » June 13th, 2012, 1:28 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:what you use your optical drive for?


I remember this same question in 1998 when Apple removed floppy drives and legacy ports (in favor of USB)

...And the world moved on.


Except back then floppy discs were easily damaged and had limited space anyway.

Optical media has the only downfall of "being to thick" to put in a thinner laptop. Thats pretty much it. I think they removed it a bit too early on this one. It's why I'll order a superdrive with mine and why they still sell the old mpb.


People who argued for floppy didn't think they were limited space. All their word documents could fit on a floppy. JPEGS were not that huge so many could be put on a floppy (less than 2MP cameras or internet files). Powerpoint files fit.

And everyone said floppy was removed too early as well.

Apple leads the pack because it makes decisions (in most cases) first. Someone has to be first to do it. The sooner you let go of optical drives (like myself) the sooner you begin to grasp and understand the freedom of it.

I only use optical discs in my PS3. And even then, a lot of games I download. And while I like the quality of blu-ray, I much prefer my HD of MP4/AAC.

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Postby kurpal_v2 » June 13th, 2012, 1:34 pm

Quick ques guys, I have a lot of movies/ shows on my laptop that I want on my ipad.


Problem is the files on my laptop arnt mp4 and itunes won't convert them (when I try to drop it onto a playlist, it just shows a small red x)

I tried using various video converters but they either take half hour to do one show or they leave a watermark on the vids.

What's the best way I can get these files onto my ipad?

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » June 13th, 2012, 1:39 pm

Strauss wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
Strauss wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:what you use your optical drive for?


I remember this same question in 1998 when Apple removed floppy drives and legacy ports (in favor of USB)

...And the world moved on.


Except back then floppy discs were easily damaged and had limited space anyway.

Optical media has the only downfall of "being to thick" to put in a thinner laptop. Thats pretty much it. I think they removed it a bit too early on this one. It's why I'll order a superdrive with mine and why they still sell the old mpb.


People who argued for floppy didn't think they were limited space. All their word documents could fit on a floppy. JPEGS were not that huge so many could be put on a floppy (less than 2MP cameras or internet files). Powerpoint files fit.

And everyone said floppy was removed too early as well.

Apple leads the pack because it makes decisions (in most cases) first. Someone has to be first to do it. The sooner you let go of optical drives (like myself) the sooner you begin to grasp and understand the freedom of it.

I only use optical discs in my PS3. And even then, a lot of games I download. And while I like the quality of blu-ray, I much prefer my HD of MP4/AAC.


Except this isn't as straightforward as the floppy removal scenario.

1. I repeat that floppy discs were inherently easy to be damaged.

2. The cloud is nice I agree but data caps are a reality to millions.

3. The decision to remove floppies was beneficial to everyone. The decision to remove optical drives is beneficial to mainly Apple as it channels users to iTunes to purchase downloadable content. I have no problem with that as Apple is a business. I do not however for one second believe that it was done for the user's benefit first like it was with floppy disk removal. Ever wonder why Apple never bought into Bluray? Big bag of hurt (to Apple).

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » June 13th, 2012, 1:39 pm

kurpal_v2 wrote:Quick ques guys, I have a lot of movies/ shows on my laptop that I want on my ipad.


Problem is the files on my laptop arnt mp4 and itunes won't convert them (when I try to drop it onto a playlist, it just shows a small red x)

I tried using various video converters but they either take half hour to do one show or they leave a watermark on the vids.

What's the best way I can get these files onto my ipad?


Have you tried using Handbrake?

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Postby Strauss » June 13th, 2012, 1:50 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Except this isn't as straightforward as the floppy removal scenario.

1. I repeat that floppy discs were inherently easy to be damaged.

2. The cloud is nice I agree but data caps are a reality to millions.

3. The decision to remove floppies was beneficial to everyone. The decision to remove optical drives is beneficial to mainly Apple as it channels users to iTunes to purchase downloadable content. I have no problem with that as Apple is a business. I do not however for one second believe that it was done for the user's benefit first like it was with floppy disk removal. Ever wonder why Apple never bought into Bluray? Big bag of hurt (to Apple).


Hmmmm...
Speaking for yourself, what do you use CDs/DVDs for and how often? And how about your friends and family that use Apple?

Trying to understand.

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Postby kurpal_v2 » June 13th, 2012, 1:55 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
kurpal_v2 wrote:Quick ques guys, I have a lot of movies/ shows on my laptop that I want on my ipad.


Problem is the files on my laptop arnt mp4 and itunes won't convert them (when I try to drop it onto a playlist, it just shows a small red x)

I tried using various video converters but they either take half hour to do one show or they leave a watermark on the vids.

What's the best way I can get these files onto my ipad?


Have you tried using Handbrake?



I have but it maxes out my cpu and sometimes even freezes.

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » June 13th, 2012, 2:09 pm

Strauss wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Except this isn't as straightforward as the floppy removal scenario.

1. I repeat that floppy discs were inherently easy to be damaged.

2. The cloud is nice I agree but data caps are a reality to millions.

3. The decision to remove floppies was beneficial to everyone. The decision to remove optical drives is beneficial to mainly Apple as it channels users to iTunes to purchase downloadable content. I have no problem with that as Apple is a business. I do not however for one second believe that it was done for the user's benefit first like it was with floppy disk removal. Ever wonder why Apple never bought into Bluray? Big bag of hurt (to Apple).


Hmmmm...
Speaking for yourself, what do you use CDs/DVDs for and how often? And how about your friends and family that use Apple?

Trying to understand.


Me personally I still watch DVD, Bluerays in addition to downloading torrented movies and streaming via Netflix. I also have installation DVDs for Windows that I would use in bootcamp. I also like to keep original music CDs and rip to iTunes. Personally I can cope with a superdrive externally as I don't mind going out of my way. I just don't believe removing it added to a user's accessibility like it did as there is no replacement like there was with floppy disks.
Don't know to many Apple users in Trinidad personally either. Most people I know see Apple products as too expensive. They dip their feet in the water via the cheaper alternatives like iPad and iPhone. The Apple users I observe are those on tuner who are technically inclined.

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » June 13th, 2012, 2:18 pm

kurpal_v2 wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
kurpal_v2 wrote:Quick ques guys, I have a lot of movies/ shows on my laptop that I want on my ipad.


Problem is the files on my laptop arnt mp4 and itunes won't convert them (when I try to drop it onto a playlist, it just shows a small red x)

I tried using various video converters but they either take half hour to do one show or they leave a watermark on the vids.

What's the best way I can get these files onto my ipad?


Have you tried using Handbrake?



I have but it maxes out my cpu and sometimes even freezes.


Sorry I don't have any other suggestions. I use handbrake and it maxes out my Amd Phenom II CPU as well. I was under the impression it does that to pretty much any CPU.

Maybe someone else in here can help.

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Postby Prototype-Tuner » June 13th, 2012, 2:33 pm

kurpal_v2 wrote:Quick ques guys, I have a lot of movies/ shows on my laptop that I want on my ipad.


Problem is the files on my laptop arnt mp4 and itunes won't convert them (when I try to drop it onto a playlist, it just shows a small red x)

I tried using various video converters but they either take half hour to do one show or they leave a watermark on the vids.

What's the best way I can get these files onto my ipad?



I use vlc or pro player to play movies tv shows etc
It plays mp4 avi mkv wmv etc

Download the app
Then use itunes or itools or ifunbox to copy the vid files into the vlc or proplayer shared docs folder and your good to go

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 13th, 2012, 3:01 pm

I think for photo / video editing the new MBP is fantastic. Plenty horse power and massive resolution.

I didnt realise DJs use the optical drive in the laptop, I thought they had disc players or MP3/AAC players and used the laptop to manage/mix music

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