The GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

[ZeroOne]

Alright, a bit OT here, does anyone else who uses tapatalk have problems with this forum, as in subscriptions disappearing, seems to happen if I make a post from my browser, getting emails informing of new posts, when I don't want any.
I have problems also with this forum continuously logging me out and not going back to the thread I was viewing when I do log in, but that a whole other issue, I think.

And I have 3 other forums that I view using Tapatalk, without these issues, I am beginning to think the problem is not from my end.

I have this same problem on my desktop, the problem is definitely on the web server side.


So Im back and stronger than before upgraded from the s2 to:



Now I have to cut my SIM.

I cant wait for Jelly Bean on this, I just hope that Google voice works just as good on this as it does on the nexus.

[achillies]

Alright, a bit OT here, does anyone else who uses tapatalk have problems with this forum, as in subscriptions disappearing, seems to happen if I make a post from my browser, getting emails informing of new posts, when I don't want any.
I have problems also with this forum continuously logging me out and not going back to the thread I was viewing when I do log in, but that a whole other issue, I think.

And I have 3 other forums that I view using Tapatalk, without these issues, I am beginning to think the problem is not from my end.

I have this same problem on my desktop, the problem is definitely on the web server side.


So Im back and stronger than before upgraded from the s2 to:

Now I have to cut my SIM.

I cant wait for Jelly Bean on this, I just hope that Google voice works just as good on this as it does on the nexus.

Which problem exactly?

You mean Google Voice Recognition, cause Google Voice is an app by itself that only works stateside

[ZeroOne]

No email notifications of new posts in subscribed topics, When the forum logs me out, when I log back in it sends me to the index page instead of the thread I was viewing.

I meant Google Voice Search.

[achillies]

No email notifications of new posts in subscribed topics, When the forum logs me out, when I log back in it sends me to the index page instead of the thread I was viewing.

I meant Google Voice Search.

That is the most annoying thing ever

Great phone BTW

[bassotronics]

I can confirm that digicel's S3's works with bmobile, well it did for me.

[ZeroOne]

Does Digicel sell the white s3?

I successfully cut my sim card.

The s3 does not charge with my main computer at home, however it charges when I connect it to other computers home.

Its a software problem I just cant pinpoint what exactly it is.

[16 cycles]

^ Yeah @ digicel carrying white S3

S voice works on that network as well...

monitor your data usage and set your alerts according to your plan....

on the topic of jelly bean for the S3 - not sure it'll come to that platform - from what i've read, the nexus platforms will get the jelly bean upgrade whereas the ice cream sandwich will get an upgrade but will have to wait longer for an updated version of ICS....

ok edit: seems JB coming to S3 Q4 2012

[slickrick777]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

[maj. tom]

^ Corning Gorilla Glass

Do they have Tech21 protection from D3O protection available in Trinidad?



The structure of this material, D3o, a polymer elastomeric foam, changes when a force is applied with a small impulse and becomes hard enough in that instant to protect whatever is encased in it.

[ZeroOne]

cant wait for JB on my S3,

The screen on the s3 is amazing even though they used Pentile instead of RGB matrix there seems to be no noticeable loss of quality.

[DVSTT]

Anyone here ever rooted an iconia a500 tab? Is rooting worth the risks or should I just stick to stock ICS?

[S_2NR]

Anyone here ever rooted an iconia a500 tab? Is rooting worth the risks or should I just stick to stock ICS?

what risk? rooting is very simple and the chance of bricking is very slim
go for it. read the instructions carefully and understand then read it again.

[viper1]

Good day tuners I just got an HTC one X and have a few questions concerning the micro sim as i have the normal sim card.
Can i go into bmobile and trade my current sim for a mini sim or do I have to cut it myself to suit or is there somewhere i can take it to with experienced persons that can have it done?

[sharkman121]

Good day tuners I just got an HTC one X and have a few questions concerning the micro sim as i have the normal sim card.
Can i go into bmobile and trade my current sim for a mini sim or do I have to cut it myself to suit or is there somewhere i can take it to with experienced persons that can have it done?

read through the last 2-3 pages of this thread.

[ZeroOne]

Good day tuners I just got an HTC one X and have a few questions concerning the micro sim as i have the normal sim card.
Can i go into bmobile and trade my current sim for a mini sim or do I have to cut it myself to suit or is there somewhere i can take it to with experienced persons that can have it done?

read through the last 2-3 pages of this thread.

www.thechinacellphone.com/micro_sim_template.pdf

[achillies]

Truth



Tapatalk SGS2

[Strauss]

Hey guys, we always back and forth about Apple users saying Google ripped off Apple and all this stupid war of patents. Just wanted to show you a video to remind you when the iPhone launched, with Google's CEO on stage with Steve Jobs.



At the time, Eric Schmidt (Google CEO) sat on Apple's Board of Directors in 1996 and was privy to the iPhone development until 2009 when he resigned from Apple's Board. (The iPhone/iPad was in the pipe since 2001 and development from 2003).

Steve felt betrayed by Schmidt the same way be felt betrayed by Gates — both of whom he worked very close with on projects not yet released. The iPhone came out in 2007. Android was purchased by Google in 2005 and the first major phone in 2008 launch.

It was this tention between Jobs and Schmidt (or Apple and Google) that caused Schmidt to resign a year later. By then Android phones were looking like the iPhones and their UI's with multi-touch gestures, rubberband, kinetic scoll et al. Google had access to prototype iPhones and just took what they wanted.

So I think this is why Apple users are at 'war' with Android users. Now the patent lawsuits are too silly now. But, as an artist myself, I would also feel ripped off if I see someone else using my designs and calling it their own.

[achillies]

So I think this is why Apple users are at 'war' with Android users. Now the patent lawsuits are too silly now. But, as an artist myself, I would also feel ripped off if I see someone else using my designs and calling it their own.

Notification Bar, OTA Updates, wireless syncing, split keyboard, tabbed browsing (all stated in video) were copied from Android, taking shameless to a new level I see, or is it that Apple also holds a patent on copying also, so when another company does it, they should be sued, I got it.

The point of the video was to talk about the entire situation and the need for patent Reform, no need to take it personally, Apple is using the tools they were given to try and stop their competition, I'm not hating on the player

[ZeroOne]

How are we soo sure that in the beginning Schmidt wasnt the one who designed the iphone (not everything but he must have had a considerable input)?

At the end of the day business is about money. Apple makes a ton of it and the law suits is theyre way of trying to grab as much as they can and looking good while they're at it.

All that aside the biggest difference is: Android=opensource, Apple=closed source.

[Strauss]

So I think this is why Apple users are at 'war' with Android users. Now the patent lawsuits are too silly now. But, as an artist myself, I would also feel ripped off if I see someone else using my designs and calling it their own.

Notification Bar, OTA Updates, wireless syncing, split keyboard, tabbed browsing (all stated in video) were copied from Android, taking shameless to a new level I see, or is it that Apple also holds a patent on copying also, so when another company does it, they should be sued, I got it.

The point of the video was to talk about the entire situation and the need for patent Reform, no need to take it personally, Apple is using the tools they were given to try and stop their competition, I'm not hating on the player

As it is now.. everyone is taking features from everyone else.
We NEED PATENT REFORM.

There must be a way to protect people's new ideas and not letting who got there first get it.

EDIT: just showing where things escalated.

The issue wasn't those features that they took from each other. It was always about the "look and FEEL" about the UI that bothered Jobs.

And the same thing with the MacOS and Windows. Apple "ARTISTS" made it look and FEEL a certain way. Sure you can take folders, stacks, widgets, trash etc from the Mac. But Apple had a problem in how it behaved a certain way. Same goes for the iPhone. Google at first avoided the feel. Then each update they started to make it FEEL the same.

You get the issue? But How can an artist fight how something 'feels' in court? So I guess the only way is through patents. Google has also been sued by Microsoft, Nokia and others. But it seems Apple is the one making news.

[achillies]

As it is now.. everyone is taking features from everyone else.
We NEED PATENT REFORM.

There must be a way to protect people's new ideas and not letting who got there first get it.

EDIT: just showing where things escalated.

The issue wasn't those features that they took from each other. It was always about the "look and FEEL" about the UI that bothered Jobs.

And the same thing with the MacOS and Windows. Apple "ARTISTS" made it look and FEEL a certain way. Sure you can take folders, stacks, widgets, trash etc from the Mac. But Apple had a problem in how it behaved a certain way. Same goes for the iPhone. Google at first avoided the feel. Then each update they started to make it FEEL the same.

You get the issue? But How can an artist fight how something 'feels' in court? So I guess the only way is through patents. Google has also been sued by Microsoft, Nokia and others. But it seems Apple is the one making news.

This is pure nonsense as usual

But just for my own information, what Android device did you spend time with to have these observations?!?

And as to why you claim of look and feel is nonsense: to this day and only recently, Apple has never sued Google or Android directly, guess why, Android in an of itself does not infringe on these patents (lets ignore the fact that they are bogus for now), till this very last patent on Universal search, thus far, Apple has had to sue HTC and Samsung.

Apple's hardware design patents can't be against Android for obvious reasons, and all the software patents were against the manufacturer's skin running atop of Android, so the claim that Google made it look and feel is nonsense and just another one of your many excuses for Apple. They are trying to stop the biggest competition, and they are trying to stop them by proxy.

Oh, and I have had to work on both platforms extensively, to claim that pure Android looks or feels like iOS is IMHO a travesty, there is absolutely nothing on iOS to be envied by a Vanilla Android user, nothing, the platforms are fundamentally different, and I would dare you to give side by side examples of Google adopting the "FEEL" of iOS, I can give you examples of iOS copying the "Feel" of Android though *cough sharing to Twitter, Facebook cough*

[M_2NR]

Guys, please... Not again. Use the please?

Each platform has their userbase. each has their pros and cons, can't we all just get along?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

whoa!!! first a nokia now this! i doubt you'd see an iPhone doing this

[slickrick777]

lol...true that!

[achillies]

Just a warning to S2 users, do not flash anything new or leaked from Samsung as of now ie LQ5, it's bricks galore.

They brought over kernel cap erase code from Note and other devices to International S2

[Lucian-2nr]

Truth



Tapatalk SGS2

Brilliant... Fanboys won't be pleased... oh wait nevermind.

[stretch]

Is it possible to get flight mode in my notification pull down tray on my S3?

[pete]

Doesn't it show up as an option when holding down the power button?

[stretch]

And how do i sync my fb contacts with my phone book. yea pete it was.

[Strauss]

As it is now.. everyone is taking features from everyone else.
We NEED PATENT REFORM.

There must be a way to protect people's new ideas and not letting who got there first get it.

EDIT: just showing where things escalated.

The issue wasn't those features that they took from each other. It was always about the "look and FEEL" about the UI that bothered Jobs.

And the same thing with the MacOS and Windows. Apple "ARTISTS" made it look and FEEL a certain way. Sure you can take folders, stacks, widgets, trash etc from the Mac. But Apple had a problem in how it behaved a certain way. Same goes for the iPhone. Google at first avoided the feel. Then each update they started to make it FEEL the same.

You get the issue? But How can an artist fight how something 'feels' in court? So I guess the only way is through patents. Google has also been sued by Microsoft, Nokia and others. But it seems Apple is the one making news.

This is pure nonsense as usual

But just for my own information, what Android device did you spend time with to have these observations?!?

And as to why you claim of look and feel is nonsense: to this day and only recently, Apple has never sued Google or Android directly, guess why, Android in an of itself does not infringe on these patents (lets ignore the fact that they are bogus for now), till this very last patent on Universal search, thus far, Apple has had to sue HTC and Samsung.

Apple's hardware design patents can't be against Android for obvious reasons, and all the software patents were against the manufacturer's skin running atop of Android, so the claim that Google made it look and feel is nonsense and just another one of your many excuses for Apple. They are trying to stop the biggest competition, and they are trying to stop them by proxy.

Oh, and I have had to work on both platforms extensively, to claim that pure Android looks or feels like iOS is IMHO a travesty, there is absolutely nothing on iOS to be envied by a Vanilla Android user, nothing, the platforms are fundamentally different, and I would dare you to give side by side examples of Google adopting the "FEEL" of iOS, I can give you examples of iOS copying the "Feel" of Android though *cough sharing to Twitter, Facebook cough*

Remember back in 2007 on the forum I said basically : in two years time all phones will start to want to look like and behave like an iPhone. REMEMBER? I said also said to you guys a day will come when you will see how I'm right. You guys told me the iPhone was overpriced and that Apple "sucks" and no one really wanted touchscreen phones. REMEMBER? (Prior to that, phones were starting to go the Blackberry direction, if they weren't onboard Symbian). Of course it took less than 2 years, so I was kinda wrong there.

Apple putting integrated Twitter and Facebook is not copying the FEEL of anything. It's something that is supposed to eventually happen. Apple adding a notification pulldown bar... THAT is what copying is. Because it was a unique Google idea. Android letting users touch the screen is not copying. Letting users swipe icons in pages is not copying (although some argue why the pages motif in the same left to right direction; why couldn't it up like... up and down or diagonal?). Android using two fingers "pinch to zoom", rubber band etc... that might seem like copying. The UI interaction.

And you know it's not really about copying features. Most features are a natural progression. e.g. Voice control has been here forever. Voice assistant... not so much wide scale commercial. And Google's voice search is NOT copying. Things like these are just natural progression in technology.

Why does everyone leave Apple to spend the R&D and take the risks? Where are the young risk takers? Where is everyone's Glass. Why does everyone wait to see Apple spend the big bucks to bring something to market (with a higher price), then immediately - because they had no R&D expenditure - make something cheaper to compete and outsell Apple? Isn't that unfair a bit?

[original_lollybob]

As it is now.. everyone is taking features from everyone else.
We NEED PATENT REFORM.

There must be a way to protect people's new ideas and not letting who got there first get it.

EDIT: just showing where things escalated.

The issue wasn't those features that they took from each other. It was always about the "look and FEEL" about the UI that bothered Jobs.

And the same thing with the MacOS and Windows. Apple "ARTISTS" made it look and FEEL a certain way. Sure you can take folders, stacks, widgets, trash etc from the Mac. But Apple had a problem in how it behaved a certain way. Same goes for the iPhone. Google at first avoided the feel. Then each update they started to make it FEEL the same.

You get the issue? But How can an artist fight how something 'feels' in court? So I guess the only way is through patents. Google has also been sued by Microsoft, Nokia and others. But it seems Apple is the one making news.

This is pure nonsense as usual

But just for my own information, what Android device did you spend time with to have these observations?!?

And as to why you claim of look and feel is nonsense: to this day and only recently, Apple has never sued Google or Android directly, guess why, Android in an of itself does not infringe on these patents (lets ignore the fact that they are bogus for now), till this very last patent on Universal search, thus far, Apple has had to sue HTC and Samsung.

Apple's hardware design patents can't be against Android for obvious reasons, and all the software patents were against the manufacturer's skin running atop of Android, so the claim that Google made it look and feel is nonsense and just another one of your many excuses for Apple. They are trying to stop the biggest competition, and they are trying to stop them by proxy.

Oh, and I have had to work on both platforms extensively, to claim that pure Android looks or feels like iOS is IMHO a travesty, there is absolutely nothing on iOS to be envied by a Vanilla Android user, nothing, the platforms are fundamentally different, and I would dare you to give side by side examples of Google adopting the "FEEL" of iOS, I can give you examples of iOS copying the "Feel" of Android though *cough sharing to Twitter, Facebook cough*

Remember back in 2007 on the forum I said basically : in two years time all phones will start to want to look like and behave like an iPhone. REMEMBER? I said also said to you guys a day will come when you will see how I'm right. You guys told me the iPhone was overpriced and that Apple "sucks" and no one really wanted touchscreen phones. REMEMBER? (Prior to that, phones were starting to go the Blackberry direction, if they weren't onboard Symbian). Of course it took less than 2 years, so I was kinda wrong there.

Apple putting integrated Twitter and Facebook is not copying the FEEL of anything. It's something that is supposed to eventually happen. Apple adding a notification pulldown bar... THAT is what copying is. Because it was a unique Google idea. Android letting users touch the screen is not copying. Letting users swipe icons in pages is not copying (although some argue why the pages motif in the same left to right direction; why couldn't it up like... up and down or diagonal?). Android using two fingers "pinch to zoom", rubber band etc... that might seem like copying. The UI interaction.

And you know it's not really about copying features. Most features are a natural progression. e.g. Voice control has been here forever. Voice assistant... not so much wide scale commercial. And Google's voice search is NOT copying. Things like these are just natural progression in technology.

Why does everyone leave Apple to spend the R&D and take the risks? Where are the young risk takers? Where is everyone's Glass. Why does everyone wait to see Apple spend the big bucks to bring something to market (with a higher price), then immediately - because they had no R&D expenditure - make something cheaper to compete and outsell Apple? Isn't that unfair a bit?

android and iOS could fight patent wars all day long

switch to Metro instead and be happy