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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby pablo_tt » September 3rd, 2012, 8:23 pm

stev wrote:
pablo_tt wrote:Go ahead and do As if you want a managerial position

If you want to get involved in the technical aspect, go straight for the basic stuff (A+, Net+ etc) and work from there


how does A levels help in a managerial position though?



Some of the project management/computing degrees require As as well as basic technician certification, but the As could be a bit of a plus, as I said, if he's looking at the management aspect

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 3rd, 2012, 8:25 pm

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MG Man wrote:plant peas


LOL....not in this lifetime bro :lol:


yet more money in the long run from the peas than the oversaturated IT field.....

hard work pays off


X2.

Look at the ride farmers does have. Brand new Hilux and Navara etc.

I also do planting and never regretted it. You sure food will sell and will be in demand. Compared to oversaturated IT. I even know people who offered to work for real small money in IT just so they can get experience.

Advice to OP. Move smart and go ATC I even see them advertising on tuner. Go there and do MEEET or EEET straight up till the advanced diploma with city and guilds.

Much easier to get a Job with that than any IT degree. They outsourcing real IT jobs now as much as they can to India. freelancers building programs for $40 US and stuff.

Its up to you. You can still do the IT if you want but be warned you will face massive competition. Often you applying for a position that 70 other people also applying to. Most cases people with more experience than you and it will be very frustrating.
As for A levels I know lots of people with that who can't get a Job. Since GATE everyone has a degree now cause it free. A levels get like CXC. Best bet is what I said, MEEET or EEET or Process Plant with city and guilds.

Offcourse if yuh have land then plant. Better than all the rest believe me. 1 harvest yuh raking in all kinda $30,000.

Food more expensive than microchips now. And it will only keep getting more expensive. Technology on the other hand will go down.

Whatever you decide, all the best.


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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby ismithx » September 3rd, 2012, 8:26 pm

still if OP wants to go into managerial, I advise he start from ground level as an IT tech, _then_ look at getting managerial training. It's always better when you know what sort of environment you are managing, and hands-on is the best way to know.

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby pablo_tt » September 3rd, 2012, 8:27 pm

ismithx wrote:still if OP wants to go into managerial, I advise he start from ground level as an IT tech, _then_ look at getting managerial training. It's always better when you know what sort of environment you are managing, and hands-on is the best way to know.


I can guarantee you, if he has the die hard technician spirit, it would be very hard for him to want to become the I.T. Manager, but who knows, things could change as you get older

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 3rd, 2012, 8:31 pm

Cross Blood wrote:I know there's a lot of competition in the field of IT....but I'm not really into electrical....I like I.T and well I build computers and stuff.....electrical may be kinda hard for me because I didn't do Physic but in a way it would be easy because I love Maths..


AND THAT my friend is why you should do Electrical Engineering Technician.

Because everybody afraid to do it. Requires studying. Hard Work!!!

Hard work pays off!!!!

IT easy so everybody want to go into IT. Even down to tire shop offering PC repairs now. Every man and his pet dog can fix a PC now. You really want to go into that kind of saturated market?

I urge you to think very long and very hard about what you want to do because the last thing you want is regretting wasting your life in the end.

Even a Prison Officer Job right now better than IT. Heck regular police right now does clock $13k a month with plenty overtime. And to Join the Prison or Police all you need is 5 olevels.

Just have a look at the freelancer websites right now. Everything they outsourcing and people from India and Pakistan willing to do programming for $50 and $60 US. Thats really sad.

You cannot outsource a Job that requires a Electrical or Mechanical Engineering Technician and even if you import chinese to do it you need to provide them work permit and thats a bit difficult even though our immigration useless its still a hassle that no one wants to bother with. You need the actual person right here to do the work with his hands. You can't expect him to magically type a code and expect the equipment to be fixed from India.

The advice MG Man and I have given you is very valuable and I suggest you think about it very hard before you go into IT.

You know what I tell you makes sense. You know what MG Man tell you makes sense.

You know owning a B14 makes sense.
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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 3rd, 2012, 8:34 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
Cross Blood wrote:I know there's a lot of competition in the field of IT....but I'm not really into electrical....I like I.T and well I build computers and stuff.....electrical may be kinda hard for me because I didn't do Physic but in a way it would be easy because I love Maths..


AND THAT my friend is why you should do Electrical Engineering Technician.

Because everybody afraid to do it. Requires studying. Hard Work!!!

Hard work pays off!!!!

IT easy so everybody want to go into IT. Even down to tire shop offering PC repairs now. Every man and his pet dog can fix a PC now. You really want to go into that kind of saturated market?

I urge you to think very long and very hard about what you want to do because the last thing you want is regretting wasting your life in the end.

Even a Prison Officer Job right now better than IT. Heck regular police right now does clock $13k a month with plenty overtime. And to Join the Prison or Police all you need is 5 olevels.

Just have a look at the freelancer websites right now. Everything they outsourcing and people from India and Pakistan willing to do programming for $50 and $60 US. Thats really sad.

You cannot outsource a Electrical or Mechanical Engineering Technician. You need the actual person right here to do the work with his hands. You can't expect him to magically type a code and expect the equipment to be fixed from India.

The advice me and MG Man has given you is very valuable and I suggest you think about it very hard before you go into IT.

You know what I tell you makes sense. You know what MG Man tell you makes sense.

You know owning a B14 makes sense.


yuh was on ah role since u made that comment :lol: :lol:

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby Cross Blood » September 3rd, 2012, 8:34 pm

pablo_tt wrote:
ismithx wrote:still if OP wants to go into managerial, I advise he start from ground level as an IT tech, _then_ look at getting managerial training. It's always better when you know what sort of environment you are managing, and hands-on is the best way to know.


I can guarantee you, if he has the die hard technician spirit, it would be very hard for him to want to become the I.T. Manager, but who knows, things could change as you get older


I have a die hard technician spirit...lol....but I think I can handle the managerial position...

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 3rd, 2012, 8:36 pm

Boy trust me I know regular police who build House that Doctors still trying to afford. :lol:
Doh get tie up with police work. It has real ways to make money when yuh is ah police, especially in Trinidad.

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 3rd, 2012, 8:45 pm

OP,I'm guessing you're young so take some good info,the I.T department in Trinidad in shambles,everyone studying in that field,you should have a look at the amount of graduates from UWI every year in that field,how much of them actually get to work in a place of their choice or get the salary they want is 1 in every 100 or so,the major factor:WHO YUH NOE.
my brother is studying to become a computer specialist,designing both hardware and software,he's doing this in Florida,if you have family abroad and you're willing to study away from home it's your best bet,he is guaranteed a job afterwards in the Mircosoft Company,but it's real hard work.

Now,if you really want to make money as everyone said,look at the news,and observe our food import bill,IT SUCKS,it pays to be a small farmer in Trinidad right now,if you're fortunate and your parents have land,study general agriculture,and reap the benefits,let me give you an example,a realistic example and from experience: you spend $5500 on 1 acre for a crop and you reap at least $35k...all this in six weeks,why won't I continue??

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby nervewrecker » September 3rd, 2012, 8:48 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Boy trust me I know regular police who build House that Doctors still trying to afford. :lol:
Doh get tie up with police work. It has real ways to make money when yuh is ah police, especially in Trinidad.


The kind of $$$ making activities 5-0's does be involved in to rake in that kinda paper this yute wont part take in. Yute come from an honest home.

Bout the plantin gyarden, man dont have the space and nuff sprangers around here. Too much time we fall victim to it.

If you do however decide you want to do physics I have past papers, textbooks, notes etc I can give you and help you to pass. I get a grade 2 without effort, wrote paper 1 in a little over 3 minutes, paper 2 in less than 5 and paper 3 in about 7 minutes (poking the beti next to me in the exam room with a ruler involved in that time). I can tell you it real easy to pass, only an idiot can fail that.

If after you looking to get into electrical engineering I looking to start the diploma next year so you can also get help from me.

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby rfari » September 3rd, 2012, 8:53 pm

OP u tryna find the easy way in life orwha? U not really serious about life? How come you now seeking advice on this anyways?

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 3rd, 2012, 8:56 pm

OP,under all seriousness and men might say I talking sheit,another aspect of the working environment you would/should consider is Health and Safety.that's every organisation's nightmare ATM.and there isn't a place where says Health and Safety is a maybe.

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby src1983 » September 3rd, 2012, 9:07 pm

teems1 wrote:Do your A levels


Can't go wrong with this

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby Cross Blood » September 3rd, 2012, 9:12 pm

Ok so what I've learnt from this thread is that PLANTING PIES -_- would be more profitable because the IT industry in Trinidad is saturated. I understand that so I guess I should do A levels because I think I may need more time to think about this and watch how the economy is changing.....EFFECTIC DESIGNS are right by saying that even the tyre shop down d road offering computer repairs so I guess its truly saturated, SHAKE D LIVIN WAKE D DEAD also said that the IT industry is saturated and NERVEWRECKER is correct by saying that I don't have space to plant garden and they are a lot of sprangers in d area

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby rfari » September 3rd, 2012, 9:15 pm

Cross Blood wrote:Ok so what I've learnt from this thread is that PLANTING PEAS -_- would be more profitable because the IT industry in Trinidad is saturated. I understand that so I guess I should do A levels because I think I may need more time to think about this and watch how the economy is changing.....EFFECTIC DESIGNS are right by saying that even the tyre shop down d road offering computer repairs so I guess its truly saturated, SHAKE D LIVIN WAKE D DEAD also said that the IT industry is saturated and NERVEWRECKER is correct by saying that I don't have space to plant garden and they are a lot of sprangers in d area

hoss hoss :?

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby Cross Blood » September 3rd, 2012, 9:18 pm

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Cross Blood wrote:Ok so what I've learnt from this thread is that PLANTING PEAS -_- would be more profitable because the IT industry in Trinidad is saturated. I understand that so I guess I should do A levels because I think I may need more time to think about this and watch how the economy is changing.....EFFECTIC DESIGNS are right by saying that even the tyre shop down d road offering computer repairs so I guess its truly saturated, SHAKE D LIVIN WAKE D DEAD also said that the IT industry is saturated and NERVEWRECKER is correct by saying that I don't have space to plant garden and they are a lot of sprangers in d area

hoss hoss :?


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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby DVSTT » September 3rd, 2012, 9:19 pm

Cross Blood wrote:Ok so what I've learnt from this thread is that PLANTING PIES -_- would be more profitable because the IT industry in Trinidad is saturated. I understand that so I guess I should do A levels because I think I may need more time to think about this and watch how the economy is changing.....EFFECTIC DESIGNS are right by saying that even the tyre shop down d road offering computer repairs so I guess its truly saturated, SHAKE D LIVIN WAKE D DEAD also said that the IT industry is saturated and NERVEWRECKER is correct by saying that I don't have space to plant garden and they are a lot of sprangers in d area


lol at the summary, but do CAPE just so you have it as a fall back. You'd be glad you did if your IT plans don't pan out.

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby nervewrecker » September 3rd, 2012, 9:25 pm

IT saturated and it have men with nuff big talk gonna try to take jobs from you (even though they eh know jack sh!t and bussing price). Lets not get into the bad talking you and tryna put you down as a newb.
Everybody have a berry now and kam's giving out free laptop. Everybody have a pc for free and who eh have dont want.

I did A's, waste of time if you ask me. I say learn a damn trade and done yes. You want quick money, thats the way.

Or do something that can get you into the industry and see if your dad brother can pull you in.

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby Cross Blood » September 3rd, 2012, 9:34 pm

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Cross Blood wrote:Ok so what I've learnt from this thread is that PLANTING PIES -_- would be more profitable because the IT industry in Trinidad is saturated. I understand that so I guess I should do A levels because I think I may need more time to think about this and watch how the economy is changing.....EFFECTIC DESIGNS are right by saying that even the tyre shop down d road offering computer repairs so I guess its truly saturated, SHAKE D LIVIN WAKE D DEAD also said that the IT industry is saturated and NERVEWRECKER is correct by saying that I don't have space to plant garden and they are a lot of sprangers in d area


lol at the summary, but do CAPE just so you have it as a fall back. You'd be glad you did if your IT plans don't pan out.


Yes that's exactly what I'm thinking

nervewrecker wrote:IT saturated and it have men with nuff big talk gonna try to take jobs from you (even though they eh know jack sh!t and bussing price). Lets not get into the bad talking you and tryna put you down as a newb.
Everybody have a berry now and kam's giving out free laptop. Everybody have a pc for free and who eh have dont want.

I did A's, waste of time if you ask me. I say learn a damn trade and done yes. You want quick money, thats the way.

Or do something that can get you into the industry and see if your dad brother can pull you in.


Everyone saying A's is a waste of time...and well IT is saturated so I guess I'll see what other fields I could pursue....

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby nervewrecker » September 3rd, 2012, 9:44 pm

You have access to cars, men does sell stuff at affordable prices on the forum here. Go around by some of them IT places and see what they selling, try to find out how much they paying, look to buy from men on this same froum and sell them back. I think tech n fizz or something is one guy that sells at great prices, find out what his wholesale prices are.

Have one store that used to buy from someone whom buys from pricesmart, I went for a blank cd and told them flat out is only out of desperation on a sunday they get the sale (price was real high). Is only when I mention I usually buy from pricesmart they flag me down and ask me if I will buy for them, their supplier ripping them off etc. I walk out the store, back then la romaine didnt have an outlet.

It have real ways to make $$$.

If you dont have business brain look to learn a trade. PVC ceiling men hard to find, plumbers is drunkards and smartmen, nobody to wire houses round here, welders bussing price and doing sh!t work, simple painters aint wanna work. Look just sunday we was looking for a welder to tack up something, nobody available. My barber was looking for a plumber and electrician recently too, gave a man $$$ and man drunk since. If you good at your trade and willing to work, men will be knocking at your door.

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby Cross Blood » September 3rd, 2012, 9:53 pm

nervewrecker wrote:You have access to cars, men does sell stuff at affordable prices on the forum here. Go around by some of them IT places and see what they selling, try to find out how much they paying, look to buy from men on this same froum and sell them back. I think tech n fizz or something is one guy that sells at great prices, find out what his wholesale prices are.

Have one store that used to buy from someone whom buys from pricesmart, I went for a blank cd and told them flat out is only out of desperation on a sunday they get the sale (price was real high). Is only when I mention I usually buy from pricesmart they flag me down and ask me if I will buy for them, their supplier ripping them off etc. I walk out the store, back then la romaine didnt have an outlet.

It have real ways to make $$$.

If you dont have business brain look to learn a trade. PVC ceiling men hard to find, plumbers is drunkards and smartmen, nobody to wire houses round here, welders bussing price and doing sh!t work, simple painters aint wanna work. Look just sunday we was looking for a welder to tack up something, nobody available. My barber was looking for a plumber and electrician recently too, gave a man $$$ and man drunk since. If you good at your trade and willing to work, men will be knocking at your door.


LOL....I have a business brain but I'm not really looking to go into any trade... I think I'll go into business management or something like that....or maybe IT if I choose in the future....I'm basically looking to get a job (maybe with the government) and then I'll see to open a business...

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 3rd, 2012, 10:12 pm

Cross Blood wrote:
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Cross Blood wrote:Ok so what I've learnt from this thread is that PLANTING PIES -_- would be more profitable because the IT industry in Trinidad is saturated. I understand that so I guess I should do A levels because I think I may need more time to think about this and watch how the economy is changing.....EFFECTIC DESIGNS are right by saying that even the tyre shop down d road offering computer repairs so I guess its truly saturated, SHAKE D LIVIN WAKE D DEAD also said that the IT industry is saturated and NERVEWRECKER is correct by saying that I don't have space to plant garden and they are a lot of sprangers in d area


lol at the summary, but do CAPE just so you have it as a fall back. You'd be glad you did if your IT plans don't pan out.


Yes that's exactly what I'm thinking

nervewrecker wrote:IT saturated and it have men with nuff big talk gonna try to take jobs from you (even though they eh know jack sh!t and bussing price). Lets not get into the bad talking you and tryna put you down as a newb.
Everybody have a berry now and kam's giving out free laptop. Everybody have a pc for free and who eh have dont want.

I did A's, waste of time if you ask me. I say learn a damn trade and done yes. You want quick money, thats the way.

Or do something that can get you into the industry and see if your dad brother can pull you in.


Everyone saying A's is a waste of time...and well IT is saturated so I guess I'll see what other fields I could pursue....


Bro I won't set you on the wrong path.

Rfari is correct there is no easy way in life. If you really wanna do the IT then go for it. I wish you the best of luck and who knows you might come out good. Peter luck ain't paul luck of however the ass they does say that. lol

But you know what I mean. lol I only told you about EEET over A levels because its the same amount of study and time and when you finish EEET in ACT you liverally have Jobs lined up for you. When you done A levels it has no jobs line up for you.

My brother did EEET in ACT and he got calls from 7 companies because he was their top student. He didn't take a single Job cause he driving Container crane and trailer truck.

Sure its hard work compared to EEET but its where the money is.

This is what I have been telling you all along. IT is the easy way out thats why it will be difficult to find a Job. EEET is hard work. Many attempt and many fail. Has limited men with EEET in the country. And well MEEET. Yuh go have jobs lined up for yuh.

I wasn't trying to discourage you bro. I was just shedding some reality on the whole scene. Its a cold and harsh reality and I didn't want you to regret anything.

Let me tell you something, one of the greatest mechanic ever pass through this country told me to sell my Benz and buy a B14. He said the B14 is a superior car, I taught he was insane and trolling. Little did I know the man was serious and knew very well what he was saying. Because he had experience before plenty experience, He didn't want to see me make the mistakes he made. I learned the hard way.

Whatever choice you take I wish you all the best man. I hope it works out for you.
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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby Cross Blood » September 3rd, 2012, 11:20 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
Cross Blood wrote:
DVSTT wrote:
Cross Blood wrote:Ok so what I've learnt from this thread is that PLANTING PIES -_- would be more profitable because the IT industry in Trinidad is saturated. I understand that so I guess I should do A levels because I think I may need more time to think about this and watch how the economy is changing.....EFFECTIC DESIGNS are right by saying that even the tyre shop down d road offering computer repairs so I guess its truly saturated, SHAKE D LIVIN WAKE D DEAD also said that the IT industry is saturated and NERVEWRECKER is correct by saying that I don't have space to plant garden and they are a lot of sprangers in d area


lol at the summary, but do CAPE just so you have it as a fall back. You'd be glad you did if your IT plans don't pan out.


Yes that's exactly what I'm thinking

nervewrecker wrote:IT saturated and it have men with nuff big talk gonna try to take jobs from you (even though they eh know jack sh!t and bussing price). Lets not get into the bad talking you and tryna put you down as a newb.
Everybody have a berry now and kam's giving out free laptop. Everybody have a pc for free and who eh have dont want.

I did A's, waste of time if you ask me. I say learn a damn trade and done yes. You want quick money, thats the way.

Or do something that can get you into the industry and see if your dad brother can pull you in.


Everyone saying A's is a waste of time...and well IT is saturated so I guess I'll see what other fields I could pursue....


Bro I won't set you on the wrong path.

Rfari is correct there is no easy way in life. If you really wanna do the IT then go for it. I wish you the best of luck and who knows you might come out good. Peter luck ain't paul luck of however the ass they does say that. lol

But you know what I mean. lol I only told you about EEET over A levels because its the same amount of study and time and when you finish EEET in ACT you liverally have Jobs lined up for you. When you done A levels it has no jobs line up for you.

My brother did EEET in ACT and he got calls from 7 companies because he was their top student. He didn't take a single Job cause he driving Container crane and trailer truck.

Sure its hard work compared to EEET but its where the money is.

This is what I have been telling you all along. IT is the easy way out thats why it will be difficult to find a Job. EEET is hard work. Many attempt and many fail. Has limited men with EEET in the country. And well MEEET. Yuh go have jobs lined up for yuh.

I wasn't trying to discourage you bro. I was just shedding some reality on the whole scene. Its a cold and harsh reality and I didn't want you to regret anything.

Let me tell you something, one of the greatest mechanic ever pass through this country told me to sell my Benz and buy a B14. He said the B14 is a superior car, I taught he was insane and trolling. Little did I know the man was serious and knew very well what he was saying. Because he had experience before plenty experience, He didn't want to see me make the mistakes he made. I learned the hard way.

Whatever choice you take I wish you all the best man. I hope it works out for you.


Man you didn't discourage me at all! Your info was very beneficial....I just don't know about doing electrical because I dont have Physics.....but besides that....I understand what you meant about IT being the easy way out and I too realised that, if you didn't tell me that there's hardly any luck in IT in Trinidad, then someone else would have told me....so I'm glad I'm hearing all of these things now so it would help me in my decision making....so thanks for your advice man....I really do appreciate it...

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 3rd, 2012, 11:34 pm

Sure thing man no problem I am sure you will find something.

If you are doing the IT try to do it with SBCS with University of London. Thats a real university. Also it has a place called em it goes something like this CTSBCSSTCTSBSCSTCBSCTS in Chaguanas. I know a padner did he IT degree there and working ministry of finance now.

Apparently their degrees real good.

If you doing IT degree you must get what others dont have. And thats the best university. Thats how you stand out.

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby Cross Blood » September 3rd, 2012, 11:56 pm

Hahahah...it's CTSCBCS...I think I'm gonna go SBCS though...it's more convenient for me and I know they have good ratings

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby stev » September 4th, 2012, 12:00 am

SBCS have GATE approved courses?

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby syntax » September 4th, 2012, 12:10 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS what kind of jobs will one be able to get with EEET

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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 4th, 2012, 12:38 am

^ Jobs to install and fix Elevators etc. Wire house etc. Fix electrical motors. My brother was offered a Job in some company that provides Power Supplies.

You can also teach. EEET is guaranteed work. But you must study.

But this Hot Indian Woman has alot of maths videos on she channel free. So it can be fun to learn.
I eh know if she hot but since she have a Phd in Maths and Physics I find it make she hot.


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Re: Should I do A Levels to go into IT

Postby Death-Row » September 4th, 2012, 1:43 am

OP, u seem unsure on what u want to do. my advice, get a job. see how the real world feels. it sucks, you'll realize this soon. As really aint sayin much unless ur future degree etc requires it. get a job and feel out what u really wanna do, jump to different jobs if you need to.

btw, being able to build a computer doesnt mean ur good at IT eh. From ur posts also, seem like u wanna be stuck in a technician position which most of the time you get paid crappy.


think what u wanna do. find someone in that position where u wanna be in 10 years time or so. contact them and speak with them. hear their story. its worth a shot.

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