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that then makes it pointless for both of usturbotusty wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:and we are getting the same thing from you for free!turbotusty wrote:i watched this debate and it was crap. cant believe ppl paid money to watch these men philosophize on a stage as tho it's fact. cant even prove half of what is proposed.
yeah well at least im not conning u out of ur money.
Sacchetto Boutique wrote:Agreed..what I see are thruth might not be what you see as truth and thats fine...discussing is fine you know, its just sad when people insult/ ridicule you for your beliefs just because they dont understand it and thats something I am trying to stay away from and have respect for everyone's beliefs
Dizzy28 wrote:^ It doesn't help when you are adamant your way is the only way. (See many of AdamB's posts for reference)
mamoo_pagal wrote:^^ so you can ask the question!!! Therefore indirectly acknowledging the existence of God.......but why doesn't any other male species of animal have nipples besides the human male?
metalgear2095 wrote:mamoo_pagal wrote:^^ so you can ask the question!!! Therefore indirectly acknowledging the existence of God.......but why doesn't any other male species of animal have nipples besides the human male?
Male mammals have nipples
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metalgear2095 wrote:mamoo_pagal wrote:^^ so you can ask the question!!! Therefore indirectly acknowledging the existence of God.......but why doesn't any other male species of animal have nipples besides the human male?
Male mammals have nipples
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MG Man wrote:metalgear2095 wrote:mamoo_pagal wrote:^^ so you can ask the question!!! Therefore indirectly acknowledging the existence of God.......but why doesn't any other male species of animal have nipples besides the human male?
Male mammals have nipples
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where's the 'intelligence' in that design?
seriously
god give man nipples, coffee, but NO MILK??????
defuq
lol ....there a male animals producing dairy milk yomamoo_pagal wrote:^^ so you can ask the question!!! Therefore indirectly acknowledging the existence of God.......but why doesn't any other male species of animal have nipples besides the human male?
megadoc1 wrote:lol ....there a male animals producing dairy milk yomamoo_pagal wrote:^^ so you can ask the question!!! Therefore indirectly acknowledging the existence of God.......but why doesn't any other male species of animal have nipples besides the human male?
.........u serious bro? when adam b is shown his error ,he goes into shock , he is shocked into the reality of truth, instead of admitting his error he then 'remembers' that he "have a life" and disappears for a while, until he returns to his deluded state but that's the bad part ,by that time many pages would pass and he would just be doing his thing again until he is stumped by, another post.....lolDFC wrote:Where Adamb these days?
He probably have plenty stuff to photocopy and books to bind.
Sacchetto Boutique wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Moses seems pretty harsh hereNumbers 31:13-18
King James Version (KJV)
13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.
14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.
15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.AdamB wrote:Megadoc,
AdamB has a life...one that includes the worship of the ONE TRUE GOD, ALLAH, and as SB said it's there in the Arabic Bible. So, is your GOD the father, alsdo the Moon God? Ignorance, I tell you...
Duane,
You forgot to quote from the Bible of Djaggs and Megadoc and Habit7, instructions on how to ABUSE AND RAPE ONE'S SISTER!!
Is this attributable to the "god of the Bible" Habit7?
Awaiting replies to these interesting posts
Habit7 wrote:Sacchetto Boutique wrote:whether he is a direct decendant or indirect, that wasnt my point...i was merely trying to show that the prophets that christians believe are the ones we also believe..the blue highlighted ones are the ones made mention of in the quran afaik
The prophets Christians adhere to preached of a Messiah to come, Jesus fulfills that prophesy in many regards. They also said "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!" (Galatian 1:8). Islam, Mormonism and many other sects fall under that category.
BTW the title Son of God has never meant a biological offspring of God. It is a title that speaks to the role of the person of Son as compared to the person of the Father, within the Godhead. It would have been clear to Muhammad if he had the gracious opportunity to read the Bible before he referenced it books, now sadly Muslims today are mislead by a mischaracterisation of God who has always revealed Himself as one in essence, three in person, even from the Old Testament.
megadoc1 wrote:when adam b is shown his error ,he goes into shock , he is shocked into the reality of truth, instead of admitting his error he then 'remembers' that he "have a life" and disappears for a while, until he returns to his deluded state but that's the bad part ,by that time many pages would pass and he would just be doing his thing again until he is stumped by, another post.....lolDFC wrote:Where Adamb these days?
He probably have plenty stuff to photocopy and books to bind.
If we can manage to keep him here after refuting his nonsenses, he would surely leave Islam.
AdamB wrote:djaggs wrote:AdamB wrote:djaggs wrote:AdamB wrote:It's interesting to note that you quote from John and Revelation as well as other unauthorized books from the New Testament. Who authored and approved of these books which outline your innovated, corrupt, belief system?
CERTAINLY NOT JESUS!! It exceeds the limits set by GOD in Commandment #1 (check Exodus 23 in Old Testament).
Jesus chose 12 men who Job it was to establish the foundation of the Church. They lived with Jesus, ate with Him, slept with them. He gave them the authority to represent Him. The authority to speak on His behalf. They were authorised by God. Their writing were also authorised by God...
2 Timothy 3:16
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Those scriptures were written during the lifetime of the Apostles, John died at the age of 80 on the Isle of Patmos where he wrote the book of Revelations, it has more authority than anything written 700 years later by people who never met Jesus, or spoke with Him, or never performed a single miracle or indication that they were sent by God. If you want to take this further I can.
Well, according to what you quoted, then the Quran was sent by inspiration of GOD and WAS REVEALED FOR CORRECTION OF THE INNOVATED MISGUIDED BIBLE.
The Quran is unequalled when it comes to righteousness.
Well I also quoted:
"22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. "
Does your "prophet " believe in the Son of God ??
Do you mean the "Son-GOD" or the "Sun-GOD"?
My "prophet" is dead, he is in his grave. When he was alive, he believed in GOD. FULL STOP. OUR GOD has no son, no wife, no daughter, no father, no partner (in worship or lordship). These are concepts of old pagan beliefs which have crept into Christianity and other religions.
Tell me, why does your "god" need a son? If HE could have a son, then why not more than one? Why not daughters too?
djaggs wrote:Please explain to us what is "abrogation"
Habit7 wrote:I will allow you a Muslim, to define what is Muslim. Who better to do it than you?
AdamB wrote:Habit7 wrote:I will allow you a Muslim, to define what is Muslim. Who better to do it than you?
The linguistic meaning of a muslim is one who submits to the will of GOD. All of the prophets from Adam to Muhammad, did that...so in that light, they were all muslims submitting to God's will.
Islam is the religion, that was perfected by GOD for Muhammad and his followers...and for all of mankind.
Islam comprises 5 pillars -
1. shahaadah (witnessing that there is no true GOD except Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah).
2. Prayer
3. Charity (compulsory) on savings (earnings after expenses)
4. Fasting in the month of Ramadhan
5. Pilgrimage to Mecca. (Hajj)
When the term "muslim" is used, it refers to a person who performs the 5 pillars AND who is a believer. A believer comprises:
1. belief in GOD and HIS ONENESS (according to Islamic monotheism which is the same as the true belief of all of the prophets)
2. belief in the Angels
3. belief in the books sent down by GOD
4. belief in Prophets
5. belief in the Day of Judgment (and life after death)
6. belief in the Divine Pre-decree (kinda like predestination BUT not exactly - this is what MGMan rants about due to improper knowledge / understanding...not his fault)
When the terms "muslim" and "believer" are used separately, their meanings converge and include each other.
However when they are used TOGETHER, then their meaning diverge, muslim then refers to the outward actions of the tongue and limbs, believer refers to the inward belief (action) of the heart.
GOD sees the hearts, a believer is higher in rank than a muslim (with diverging meanings as listed above).
metalgear2095 wrote:AdamB wrote:Habit7 wrote:I will allow you a Muslim, to define what is Muslim. Who better to do it than you?
The linguistic meaning of a muslim is one who submits to the will of GOD. All of the prophets from Adam to Muhammad, did that...so in that light, they were all muslims submitting to God's will.
Islam is the religion, that was perfected by GOD for Muhammad and his followers...and for all of mankind.
Islam comprises 5 pillars -
1. shahaadah (witnessing that there is no true GOD except Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah).
2. Prayer
3. Charity (compulsory) on savings (earnings after expenses)
4. Fasting in the month of Ramadhan
5. Pilgrimage to Mecca. (Hajj)
When the term "muslim" is used, it refers to a person who performs the 5 pillars AND who is a believer. A believer comprises:
1. belief in GOD and HIS ONENESS (according to Islamic monotheism which is the same as the true belief of all of the prophets)
2. belief in the Angels
3. belief in the books sent down by GOD
4. belief in Prophets
5. belief in the Day of Judgment (and life after death)
6. belief in the Divine Pre-decree (kinda like predestination BUT not exactly - this is what MGMan rants about due to improper knowledge / understanding...not his fault)
When the terms "muslim" and "believer" are used separately, their meanings converge and include each other.
However when they are used TOGETHER, then their meaning diverge, muslim then refers to the outward actions of the tongue and limbs, believer refers to the inward belief (action) of the heart.
GOD sees the hearts, a believer is higher in rank than a muslim (with diverging meanings as listed above).
By your definition most Muslims are not doing this Islam thing right. Islam is only for those that can afford the trip to mecca then? Don't you think that this is a silly pillar?
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metalgear2095 wrote:AdamB wrote:Habit7 wrote:I will allow you a Muslim, to define what is Muslim. Who better to do it than you?
The linguistic meaning of a muslim is one who submits to the will of GOD. All of the prophets from Adam to Muhammad, did that...so in that light, they were all muslims submitting to God's will.
Islam is the religion, that was perfected by GOD for Muhammad and his followers...and for all of mankind.
Islam comprises 5 pillars -
1. shahaadah (witnessing that there is no true GOD except Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah).
2. Prayer
3. Charity (compulsory) on savings (earnings after expenses)
4. Fasting in the month of Ramadhan
5. Pilgrimage to Mecca. (Hajj)
When the term "muslim" is used, it refers to a person who performs the 5 pillars AND who is a believer. A believer comprises:
1. belief in GOD and HIS ONENESS (according to Islamic monotheism which is the same as the true belief of all of the prophets)
2. belief in the Angels
3. belief in the books sent down by GOD
4. belief in Prophets
5. belief in the Day of Judgment (and life after death)
6. belief in the Divine Pre-decree (kinda like predestination BUT not exactly - this is what MGMan rants about due to improper knowledge / understanding...not his fault)
When the terms "muslim" and "believer" are used separately, their meanings converge and include each other.
However when they are used TOGETHER, then their meaning diverge, muslim then refers to the outward actions of the tongue and limbs, believer refers to the inward belief (action) of the heart.
GOD sees the hearts, a believer is higher in rank than a muslim (with diverging meanings as listed above).
By your definition most Muslims are not doing this Islam thing right. Islam is only for those that can afford the trip to mecca then? Don't you think that this is a silly pillar?
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he said there is an Arabic version of the bible but the only thing you can get out of that version is the fact that the word God is rendered Allah,other than that it's probably still 'corrupted'Habit7 wrote:You find that Islamic Torah, Psalms and Gospel yet?
metalgear2095 wrote:By your definition most Muslims are not doing this Islam thing right. Islam is only for those that can afford the trip to mecca then? Don't you think that this is a silly pillar?
