.::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

[civicman]

According the new standing orders of the parliament, the parliament suppose to be in recess until September unless there is some dire need to pass immediate legislation. Parliamentarians deserves vacation in the same manner Kamla and Spider-Man could go slinging around Rio de Janeiro.

No biggie they, ent Rowley was recently on hoilday in Dubai

Playing golf

[Habit7]

...so, back to how the UNC bring legislation that some PP members don't even know about to change the constitution and give the ppl more power when they could pass it with a simple majority, no consultation, smaller parties sidelined and widespread disapproval among the citizenry.

[zoom rader]

^^^ What widespread disapproval among the citizenry? Its only a few PNM ppl that beating up.

[pioneer]

If it so bad why pnm have it in their constitution???

[brams112]

If it so bad why pnm have it in their constitution???

Looks like their stupid section of supporters don't know about it then?

[Habit7]

Subhas Panday, Dr. Merle Hodge, Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj and Martin Daly are PNM now?

So what is they have it in their constitution? Up until recently they had delegate voting for Leader. If the PP constitution reform were to have one person voting for you are your neighbourhood would that make it ok?

[nixonliketheprez]

...so, back to how the UNC bring legislation that some PP members don't even know about to change the constitution and give the ppl more power when they could pass it with a simple majority, no consultation, smaller parties sidelined and widespread disapproval among the citizenry.

^^^ thing is we always had the power to begin with that's something the public needs to realise

^^^ What widespread disapproval among the citizenry? Its only a few PNM ppl that beating up.

^^Listen to Ramesh on i95.5fm now and stop tlk sheit on tuner. Ramesh is ah PNM now awa??

[Habit7]

Dude, that is Ralph Maraj.

[nixonliketheprez]

Dude, that is Ralph Maraj.

Nope wasn't Ralph

[Habit7]

Yeah you right it was RLM

[rfari]

Eida way, it was a pnm that was digging horrors as usual

[toyolink]

I am uncomfortable with legislating changes to the constitution without public consultation.
I am uncomfortable and unhappy with the pace with which successive gov't been dealing with constitutional reform and the so called consultations which have been conducted so far.
As a non aligned member of the electorate I am fed-up with people getting to sit in parliament with 40 % or less of votes cast and in cases of tie a man talking about 'streams and rivers' and we end up in a real khaki pants.The office of president making a judgement call in a tie don't sit well with me.
I am in agreement with provisions which provides for elected representatives demonstrate a clear majority of votes and conditions which will avoid any Prime Minister from taking on the posture of 'Right to lead until I dead' which on too many occasions accounted for the political death of real contenders.
Apart from the sense that I wasn't consulted and in this regard 'all ah them' been doing us the same thing since Eric days,I still waiting for an intelligent explanation of why the proposed changes will lead to anarchy.
People jumping up with all kinds of scare tactics and hastily put together propaganda nonesense only have me wondering if they feel the population just basically are their pawns to be manipulated.
First,the debate affecting holidays ,then is ,it going to be hard to form a government,somebody bawl-out the small parties dont stand a chance (a fact under the status quo),mixed up in the noise was the message this is to keep PP in power........
I am willing to listen to a sensible communication which shows that what is proposed is dangerous,but show the past,present and now the future would be worse.
BTW folks when last any govt ever consult you on anything and apart from 'Black Power' movement how many mass movements for fundamental change have taken place over the last 30 years.

[zoom rader]

Men beating-up over run off elections and dont even know how it works.
I am sure if you ask a PNM plackcard toter how does a run off election work he wont have a clue but tell you that Rowley say it bad and them want jusstis.
Men beating-up about not being informed about consultations, when infact there were a number of meetings all over TT, but few attended those meetings.
Men beating up over small parties not getting a fair deal, well small parties have to prove themselfs and get votes not just 33 votes and hope tobe a winner.
Men beating up for a goverment to do something about constitutional reform. The PP took the bulls by the horns and started the ball rolling. PNM had more time than anyone else and did Jack chit except bump gumb as they always do in pass with no results.

[UML]

Where in Parliament is there room for small parties? There is Government and Opposition. If you are not Government you are opposition. Doh say ilp cause ilp or cop cause they were formed from government and fall into govt and opposition.



If u can't get votes. U can't make either government or opposition. Why would u be in Parliament. No second best to second in Parliament. Parliament is for WINNERS!!!!

[UML]

All these online petitions flying around maybe we should start online petitions in support of the government policies!!!


Cause the pnm only good at making noise and ppl only hear noise.

[rfari]

So whatever happen with proportional representation? U eh like that?

[zoom rader]

So whatever happen with proportional representation? U eh like that?

Yeah Tobago getting proportional representation

[Habit7]

Siparia Regional Corp. too, the PM 'fraid the come 2015 not even PR can help her.

This just shows how much Pavlovian dogs are some PP supporters. When PR was brought up PR, they strongly defended it, now that it failed the gov't brings the opposite in the form of run offs and they also strongly defend it. Where is the principle?

[pioneer]

But if pnm so confident of 2015 victory, why all the spontaneous internal combustion?

[nervewrecker]

anyone have firsthand experience of WASA/TTEC doing work at their residence at night? Hearing good reviews about ppl saying they impressed that they getting service at unusual times.

Because that's when they start clocking overtime.

[pete]

Only way I could see PR being implemented in the format we have for the general elections is the party that gets the popular vote gets to appoint the prime minister. Which makes no sense in our system where you need majority support in the house if representatives. How you guys envision it working?

[UML]

anyone have firsthand experience of WASA/TTEC doing work at their residence at night? Hearing good reviews about ppl saying they impressed that they getting service at unusual times.

Because that's when they start clocking overtime.

So they actually doing work or more work? Or the economy doing well so they can get overtime work?

[nervewrecker]

anyone have firsthand experience of WASA/TTEC doing work at their residence at night? Hearing good reviews about ppl saying they impressed that they getting service at unusual times.

Because that's when they start clocking overtime.

So they actually doing work or more work? Or the economy doing well so they can get overtime work?

T&tec trucks does be chilling under a shady tree all day and wasa personnel does arrive around 4 - 5 pm and delay till around 6 - 7pm and then start really working.
T&tec does start making movements around the same hours too.

[zoom rader]

anyone have firsthand experience of WASA/TTEC doing work at their residence at night? Hearing good reviews about ppl saying they impressed that they getting service at unusual times.

Because that's when they start clocking overtime.

So they actually doing work or more work? Or the economy doing well so they can get overtime work?

T&tec trucks does be chilling under a shady tree all day and wasa personnel does arrive around 4 - 5 pm and delay till around 6 - 7pm and then start really working.
T&tec does start making movements around the same hours too.

Well true but sad, this is one of the values that PNM & trade Unions left trinis to deal with.

[Habit7]

Yeah because PNM shares so much principles with trade unions. And the UNC/PP has no connection whatsoever with trade unions.

[j.o.e]

Yeah because PNM shares so much principles with trade unions. And the UNC/PP has no connection whatsoever with trade unions.

Doh talk sense with dem fellas bai.....UNC still using the Rienzi Complex?

[goalpost]

anyone have firsthand experience of WASA/TTEC doing work at their residence at night? Hearing good reviews about ppl saying they impressed that they getting service at unusual times.

Because that's when they start clocking overtime.

So they actually doing work or more work? Or the economy doing well so they can get overtime work?

T&tec trucks does be chilling under a shady tree all day and wasa personnel does arrive around 4 - 5 pm and delay till around 6 - 7pm and then start really working.
T&tec does start making movements around the same hours too.

Well true but sad, this is one of the values that PNM & trade Unions left trinis to deal with.

Bullsheit. In most cases, those TTEC crews doing connections at night are emergency crews who work shift (3-11, 11-7) on nights which are slow. Sooo no overtime. And this has not just occurred. Going on since before 2010.

Don't know about WASA.

[Country_Bookie]

Did any of the ppl beating up abt constitutional reform even bother to take part in any of the town hall consultations on this? They started in 2013 and were taking recommendations up to March 2014.

They had consultations all over the country. PNM even took part from the start, look Penny Beckles was here in the Arima meeting.

Senator The Honourable Penelope Beckles-Robinson at the 3rd consultation

[j.o.e]

Constitutional Reform Commission (CRC) member Carlos Dillon has become the second member of the body calling on Government to hold its hand on the Constitution (Amendment) Bill 2014. In a statement yesterday, Dillon said as a member of the commission, whose remit was to “co-ordinate the consultation sessions” throughout the country and to submit a report, he took responsibility for the report, which was subsequently put out for public comment.

Dillon added, “In my view, the main concerns of the citizenry at this time include the right of recall of an MP, the methodology to be used for putting proportional representation into effect and the timing of bringing the bill to Parliament. “The right of recall of an MP and the question of proportional representation were indeed raised by the public during the consultations and are reflected in the report.

“However, the methods of putting the right of recall and the methodology for effecting PR were not part of the public discussion, for acceptance/rejection.” Dillon said the timing of bringing the bill to Parliament was not the function of the commission. “As a consequence of the furore surrounding the bill,” he suggested, “good sense should prevail and that the timing of debate on such a most important matter be looked at again.”

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-08- ... goes-ahead

Zoom rader u twat...being at the consultations would not have afforded you the opportunity to learn about how this would be implemented. Even the committee members saying that..... but doesn't matter to you because PP=right and PNM= wrong.

[desifemlove]

What about the ILP?

Who? What?