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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby pioneer » August 28th, 2014, 10:40 pm

Still no local muslim response?

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby megadoc1 » August 28th, 2014, 10:55 pm

not even self Adam b

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby Dizzy28 » August 28th, 2014, 11:49 pm

megadoc1 wrote:not even self Adam b


Suppose AdamB is the voice in the video??:?::?:

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby RASC » August 29th, 2014, 8:54 am

Local Muslim Leaders...have Any denounced Isis?
Publically or Privately?

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby DFC » August 29th, 2014, 9:14 am

in another thread i told you who the guy was.

He's originally from barrackpore.
Went pakistan to "study" a few years ago.

From pakistan he moved to afghanistan, then syria.

He is on the terrorist watch list.

cant say anymore .

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby bumblebeetuna » August 29th, 2014, 9:26 am

why trinis does have to get involved in everything jedddd

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby shogun » August 29th, 2014, 9:27 am



The Muslims that choose to remain quiet better prepare themselves for the fact that their religion is fast becoming a pariah to even once tolerant people like myself.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby 88sins » August 29th, 2014, 12:02 pm

there's already been quite a few cases of bubonic plague across the mid-west & southern states of the US,earlist cases reported since 2010 IIRC, so they might be a lil late

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby SMc » August 29th, 2014, 12:22 pm

cheese wrote:Laptop seized in Syria reveals terror group were looking into use of bubonic plague


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2737639/ISIS-laptop-reveals-terror-group-working-biological-weapon-spread-bubonic-plague.html


Ummm...Bluefete is already employed as the 2NR- dailymail.co.uk correspondent so please know your place and stay there.

fanks.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby SpiderLimit » August 29th, 2014, 12:52 pm

SMc wrote:
cheese wrote:Laptop seized in Syria reveals terror group were looking into use of bubonic plague


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2737639/ISIS-laptop-reveals-terror-group-working-biological-weapon-spread-bubonic-plague.html


Ummm...Bluefete is already employed as the 2NR- dailymail.co.uk correspondent so please know your place and stay there.

fanks.


yeah....sheit man know yuh place.....franks.... :drinking: :drinking:

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby bluefete » August 29th, 2014, 12:59 pm

SpiderLimit wrote:
SMc wrote:
cheese wrote:Laptop seized in Syria reveals terror group were looking into use of bubonic plague


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2737639/ISIS-laptop-reveals-terror-group-working-biological-weapon-spread-bubonic-plague.html


Ummm...Bluefete is already employed as the 2NR- dailymail.co.uk correspondent so please know your place and stay there.

fanks.


yeah....sheit man know yuh place.....franks.... :drinking: :drinking:


Why allyuh, so??? I is a unpaid correspondent, eh!!
:shock: :shock: :D :D :D

SMc: That was some comment in the "WTF" thread. I had water coming through my nose. Good thing I wasn't eating.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby bluefete » August 29th, 2014, 1:03 pm

DFC wrote:in another thread i told you who the guy was.

He's originally from barrackpore.
Went pakistan to "study" a few years ago.

From pakistan he moved to afghanistan, then syria.

He is on the terrorist watch list.

cant say anymore .


You sound worried.

Yuh know how you like to terrorize christians!!

Take care you not on de watchlist too. 8-) 8-) 8-)

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby cheese » August 29th, 2014, 5:33 pm

SMc wrote:
cheese wrote:Laptop seized in Syria reveals terror group were looking into use of bubonic plague


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2737639/ISIS-laptop-reveals-terror-group-working-biological-weapon-spread-bubonic-plague.html


Ummm...Bluefete is already employed as the 2NR- dailymail.co.uk correspondent so please know your place and stay there.

fanks.



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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby pioneer » August 29th, 2014, 6:56 pm

RASC wrote:Local Muslim Leaders...have Any denounced Isis?
Publically or Privately?


I tryin to probe people who goin friday jooma prayers but everyone tight-lipped about ISIS...all they talk about is boycotting colgate and mac donalds

This really amazing

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby Dizzy28 » August 29th, 2014, 7:04 pm

pioneer wrote:
RASC wrote:Local Muslim Leaders...have Any denounced Isis?
Publically or Privately?


I tryin to probe people who goin friday jooma prayers but everyone tight-lipped about ISIS...all they talk about is boycotting colgate and mac donalds

This really amazing


Trini Muslims Facebook page is real lulz. Real posts on why to not buy coca cola!!

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby pioneer » August 29th, 2014, 7:08 pm

I'm afraid one day i'll get up to see my wall at home marked with blood.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby brams112 » August 29th, 2014, 7:10 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
pioneer wrote:
RASC wrote:Local Muslim Leaders...have Any denounced Isis?
Publically or Privately?


I tryin to probe people who goin friday jooma prayers but everyone tight-lipped about ISIS...all they talk about is boycotting colgate and mac donalds

This really amazing


Trini Muslims Facebook page is real lulz. Real posts on why to not buy coca cola!!

They not commenting because the situation is not oppressing their religion.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby pioneer » August 29th, 2014, 7:11 pm

All their prayers have been answered...an Islamic State is finally here

This is what the book promised them

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby bluesclues » August 29th, 2014, 7:54 pm

pioneer wrote:All their prayers have been answered...an Islamic State is finally here

This is what the book promised them


the book promised that they will know what is the one true religion of God. they assume it was referring to islam.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby Dizzy28 » September 2nd, 2014, 1:26 pm

Well we know at least a few local Muslims support ISIS.
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They even have conspiracy theories on that page saying the Foley beheading is fake. You can check them out further
https://www.facebook.com/trinidadmuslim ... a/timeline

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby Slartibartfast » September 2nd, 2014, 2:16 pm

*Sigh*

So what do they think is going on across there. IS stocking up on guns and pickups to spread the word of Allah. How come there is no news of IS stocking up on Qur'ans. If you are truly spreading the word of God, don't you think you should have a copy of his word on hand?

On a separate note, I wonder what the Gun:Book ratio over there and if there is any correlation between level of education and/or IQ versus harmful crimes (or any other indicator of violence)

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby Dizzy28 » September 2nd, 2014, 2:47 pm

On another note the other American journalist has been beheaded!!

Steven Sotloff: Islamic State 'kills US hostage'

An Islamic State video has appeared which purports to show the beheading of Steven Sotloff, a US journalist being held hostage by the militants.

Mr Sotloff, 31, disappeared in Syria in 2013. He appeared at the end of a video last month which showed fellow US journalist James Foley being killed..............


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29038217

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby shogun » September 2nd, 2014, 4:26 pm

Sh!t is fcuked up yo.

I keep wondering what going through these guys' minds when they KNOW they're about to die.

Honestly, i think Obama is doing the right thing by not wanting to act unilaterally. Taking too long to organize a coalition though.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby pioneer » September 2nd, 2014, 10:31 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Well we know at least a few local Muslims support ISIS.
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They even have conspiracy theories on that page saying the Foley beheading is fake. You can check them out further
https://www.facebook.com/trinidadmuslim ... a/timeline


wow...hope the US Embassy is taking note of these people.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby Valentines escourts » September 3rd, 2014, 3:50 am

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Son of Suriname President Guilty of Aiding Hezbollah Against USA, Drug Trafficking in New York

Former Head Of Suriname’s Counter-Terrorism Unit Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Attempting To Support Hezbollah, Narcotics Trafficking, and Brandishing a Rocket Launcher


NEW YORK -- Dino Bouterse, the son of the President of Suriname and previously head of Suriname’s Counter-Terrorism Unit, pled guilty Friday in Manhattan federal court in connection with his attempt to provide material support and resources to Hezbollah, a designated terrorist organization, along with narcotics trafficking and firearms offenses. Bouterse, who was arrested in Panama on August 29, 2013, and arrived in the United States on August 30, 2013, pled guilty before U.S. District Judge Shira A. Scheindlin.

“Today, a supporter of terrorism, who was in a position of national power in Suriname and presented himself as an opponent of terrorism, has pled guilty. In addition to conspiring to import cocaine into the United States, Dino Bouterse has acknowledged that he attempted to provide material support to Hezbollah. Now he faces, at a minimum, 15 years in prison,” said Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara. 

Bouterse's father, Dési Bouterse, is a former army officer and military dictator who was elected to office in 2010. After a 1980 coup, Lt. Colonel Bouterse had ruled Suriname behind a series of puppet Presidents until a new constitution was passed and democracy restored in 1990.

According to the Indictment and other documents, in 2013, Bouterse used his position to assist individuals he believed were members of Hezbollah who intended to conduct terrorist attacks against American interests. In exchange for a multimillion-dollar pay-off, Bouterse agreed to allow large numbers of purported Hezbollah operatives to use Suriname as a permanent base for, among other things, attacks on American targets. In furtherance of his efforts to assist Hezbollah, Bouterse supplied a false Surinamese passport to a purported Hezbollah operative, who in actuality was an undercover law enforcement officer, for the purpose of clandestine travel, including travel to the United States, began determining which heavy weapons he could provide to Hezbollah, and indicated how Hezbollah operatives, supplied with a Surinamese cover story, could enter the United States.

In June 2013, Bouterse and his co-defendant, Edmund Quincy Muntslag, met in Suriname with DEA confidential sources (the “CSs”), in a local government office, to discuss importing cocaine into the United States using commercial airline flights. During the meeting, Bouterse showed the CSs a rocket launcher and a kilogram of cocaine.

Approximately one month later, Bouterse and Muntslag worked to provide transportation and security for cocaine being sent through Suriname to the United States. As a test run, Bouterse and Muntslag sent 10 kilograms of cocaine on a commercial flight departing from Suriname. Bouterse personally verified the arrangements for the 10-kilogram cocaine shipment in a text message. The cocaine was intercepted by law enforcement officials after it departed Suriname.

In July 2013, Bouterse met with one of the CSs to discuss opening Suriname to the CSs’ purported Hezbollah associates.

Later that month, Bouterse met in Europe with one of the CSs and with two other men who purported to be associated with Hezbollah. During this meeting, Bouterse discussed initially hosting 30 to 60 Hezbollah members in Suriname for training and operations. He also indicated that he wanted a Hezbollah cell in Suriname, in part, to act as a personal armed force. 

Bouterse confirmed his understanding that the purported Hezbollah operatives would operate in South America against American targets, and he agreed to supply Surinamese passports to the operatives — and to assist with their applications for visas to travel from South America into the United States. In addition, in response to a request for surface-to-air missiles and rocket-propelled grenades, Bouterse stated that he would need “two months” and that he would provide a list of what he could supply.

Finally, at the July 2013 meeting in Europe, Bouterse agreed to create a false Surinamese passport for one of the purported Hezbollah operatives, so that Bouterse and the Hezbollah operative could travel to Suriname to inspect the facilities that Bouterse had agreed to prepare for the Hezbollah contingent.

At a subsequent meeting in August 2013, Bouterse delivered a Surinamese passport with false identifying information to a purported Hezbollah operative. As had been discussed at the July 2013 meeting in Europe, the purported Hezbollah operative was to use the fraudulent passport to travel to Suriname. Bouterse indicated that everything was ready in Suriname for the arrival of the purported Hezbollah members, and that some “toys,” or weapons, would be available for inspection.

Muntslag was arrested on August 29, 2013, in Trinidad and Tobago, and is pending extradition to the United States to face a narcotics importation charge in the Indictment.

Bouterse, 41, pled guilty to one count of attempting to provide material support to Hezbollah, a designated foreign terrorist organization, one count of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States, and one count of carrying a firearm in connection with the conspiracy to import cocaine. Those charges carry a maximum term in prison of life, and a mandatory minimum term in prison of 15 years.

The charge against the remaining defendant, Edmund Quincy Muntslag, is merely an allegation, and he is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.


In 2000, Dino Bouterse's father, President Desi Bouterse, was himself convicted in absentia of drug trafficking by a court in the Netherlands. He has always denied the charges. 

Wikileaks cables released in 2011 reveal that the elder Bouterse was involved in drug-trafficking until atleast 2006. The cables report the connection between Bouterse and top Guyanese criminals Roger Khan and Eduardo Beltran. Khan was believed to help Bouterse's financial situation by giving him the means to supplement his income through narcotics trafficking. According to the cables Bouterse met Roger Khan several times in Nickerie at the house of MP Rashied Doekhi, who is a prominent member of Bouterse's political party. The cables also report that Bouterse and Khan were plotting to assassinate then minister of Justice Chan Santokhi and attorney general Subhaas Punwasi.

Khan who is known as the Guyanese Pablo Escobar and is believed responsible for almost 200 murders in Guyana was arrested in Paramaribo in June 2006 in a sting operation by the Surinamese police. By order of then Minister of Justice Chan Santokhi, Khan was deported to the United States of America where he was sentenced to 40 years imprisonment on charges of smuggling large amounts of cocaine into the United States of America, witness tampering and illegal possession of firearms. 

 

The Government of the Republic of Suriname wishes not to react to the recent developments in the court case of the United States of America against Dino Bouterse.

The Government, however, wishes to emphasize the following:

At no point in time and in no manner whatsoever have terrorist organizations been active within the territory of the Republic of Suriname. Court documents reflect that this was an undercover operation in which only US agents and informants were involved, neither of whom were terrorists or drug cartel members.Dino Bouterse has never held the position of Head of the Counter Terrorism Unit (CTU). During the start up phase of this unit, Bouterse was merely appointed as trainer and instructor. To date, the only, and first, person to hold the position of Head of the CTU is Captain Giovanni Nijbroek. Hence, Dino Bouterse lacked at all times the authority and capability to lend support to setting up terrorist bases and camps in Suriname.Suriname and the United States of America, together with international organizations, have consistently been working closely in the area of counter terrorism and intelligence sharing. Suriname unequivocally continues this cooperation in the future.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby shogun » September 3rd, 2014, 5:37 am

Valentines escourts wrote:Son of Suriname President Guilty of Aiding Hezbollah Against USA, Drug Trafficking in New York

Former Head Of Suriname’s Counter-Terrorism Unit Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Attempting To Support Hezbollah, Narcotics Trafficking, and Brandishing a Rocket Launcher


Damn.

Dizzy28 wrote:They even have conspiracy theories on that page saying the Foley beheading is fake. You can check them out further


Steups.

When the religious/zealots NEED to convince themselves, they find a way.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby RASC » September 4th, 2014, 7:26 am

What of these 5 Muslims in Venezuela?

Right now thanks to this Kamla led govt, Re: section 34-we are in the dog house with the US govt. Hence why we can't even get that Trini-Roots ambassador yet.

We better play our cards right in this heightened IS threat and not try to cuddle these suspected terrorists or appease no local cleriq for votes. I see they sending letter to Caracas to try to get these terror suspects released and returned to our shores. Kamla and them better do the right thing and let the Venezuelan authorities run due process.

If they're found guilty let them be executed right there!

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby Dizzy28 » September 4th, 2014, 9:14 am

RASC wrote:What of these 5 Muslims in Venezuela?

Right now thanks to this Kamla led govt, Re: section 34-we are in the dog house with the US govt. Hence why we can't even get that Trini-Roots ambassador yet.

We better play our cards right in this heightened IS threat and not try to cuddle these suspected terrorists or appease no local cleriq for votes. I see they sending letter to Caracas to try to get these terror suspects released and returned to our shores. Kamla and them better do the right thing and let the Venezuelan authorities run due process.

If they're found guilty let them be executed right there!


With elections next year them wouldn't want to risk the Muslim vote in San Juan/Barataria.
But the local Muslim community need to come better with thier explanations as to why those ppl were in Venezeula.

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Re: ISIS in T&T?

Postby Habit7 » September 4th, 2014, 9:24 am

Vacationing...in Caracas

But for those who are asking why there aren't any Muslim voices against this, are you all in an active position to hear these voices? Just relying on the press is not enough, if there may be voices the press would hardly repeat them.

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