2NR Bodybuilding/Fitness/Diet/ Elite Physique Seekers

[DVSTT]

It was probably mentioned before in this thread but what's the best bang for your buck protein? In terms of price for the protein and serving per container. For instance the 4lb combat gives you 54 single scoop servings and I think it's under $400 for a tub.

U have to use somthing that wud work for u...some might not agree with you, others will....

Once you willing to live with the side effects later on in life go strong.

[15devils]

Having some shoulder issues myself....taking it slow and using the days to rehab and light weights and level cataflam and ice...

[Norton12005]

I hope you guys not stressing too much on supplements. You can get most the protein you need from a proper diet. Don't let your workout depend on additives because when money is tight and your supplement source runs dry...you will stop working out.

Stop depending supplements to make you ripped. Work out for a year and see the results. If a year is too long then take steroids and the complications that come with it. There is no short cut to success.

What are the complications that comes with steroids use?

Gynacomastia

Tell me how can I get gynecomastic if I use the following anabolic steroids for a 10-14 weeks cycle:

Winstrol
Anavar
Trenabol
Equipose
Masteron

[Conrad]

[konartis]

i know some guys that take some steroids, they have good results with them, would only recommend someone to use them after careful guidance and research tho, i myself was tempted to use...but never did

[Norton12005]

The problem with anabolic steroids is "abuse"

[Habit7]

[DVSTT]

The problem with anabolic steroids is "abuse"

Your mind made up already. Go strong.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-livin ... t-20046134

[Norton12005]

DVSTT

There exist little to no side effects with 1-14 weeks of use based on which compound you used. In other words, the stronger the compound the higher the probability the side effects can occur, if any, they can be block beforehand (See Below) Check the chart I uploaded before.

I understand that many of our local bodybuilders operate within this margin of safety or even drop out before, because of funding.

However, the "gyno" you mentioned, occurs at high levels of testosterone, using dianabol, oxy, etc and is noticeable after 14 weeks of use, that is mild abuse. The over-the counter products that these competitors used to block those side effects are:

Novaldex-d
Provirion
Arimidex
Aldactone
Lasic
B-complex
Clomid
Clostil
etc....

Anabolic steriods though should only be used with medical supervision.

[pugboy]

some say when you stop pumping iron you retain a thick fat look for the rest of your life after serious steroid use

[Norton12005]

Puboy,

I heard that before, but if you look at the older guys in the industry, for example, at the masters shows they are not fat. I don't understand how being lean and rip most of your life could convert to a fat structure when you age.

Visit the junior show and look at the old folks there, then decide for yourself. Anabolic steroids reputation is worst than cocaine, alcohol and marijuana, but there is a main difference, the steroids guys go to the gym, admire themselves, eat good, etc.....

Well we all know how the other guys look who using cocaine, alcohol and marijuana

[ninjaboost]

I think those guys that get fat after they stop pumping iron get fat because they continue to eat as they did when they were training i.e. in excess of 4K calories per day

[GoS]

i think i getting the hang of this thing now thanks boi dougla boy

[DVSTT]

I think those guys that get fat after they stop pumping iron get fat because they continue to eat as they did when they were training i.e. in excess of 4K calories per day

My wallet hurting just thinking about eating 4k calories a day.

[Norton12005]

Any reviews on Gold Standard Whey and Pro- Complex Gainer or Anotest

[DVSTT]

Any reviews on Gold Standard Whey and Pro- Complex Gainer or Anotest

Pro complex is a mix. Gold standard is just protein isolate, it'll keep you lean unless you make up the calories with oats and peanut butter like I do. I've been using it and I went from 154lbs last year October to 176 in December but I stopped using peanut butter and used less oats so i dropped to 166lbs as of today. As a result I resumed my 8tlbspns of peanut butter and 16tblespns of oats with my protein so I could feed them gains. I never used pro complex.

[ninjaboost]

Gold standard is also a blend, one of the best on the market IMO comparable to Whey Build by Fuel:One

I think they replaced the Pro-Complex Gainer with Pro Gainer another one of the best on the market, I used it for some time but had stomach issues.

Anotest like many other test boosters are a waste of time IMO as studies have shown most of them to be ineffective except for those that contain D-Aspartic Acid and even with those the effects are very temporary.

Currently I use Quick Mass Loaded by AllMax Nutrition with an intra-workout BCAA and the results are great, went from 180 to 204 in the last 6 months and still lean.

[DVSTT]

Gold standard is also a blend, one of the best on the market IMO comparable to Whey Build by Fuel:One

I think they replaced the Pro-Complex Gainer with Pro Gainer another one of the best on the market, I used it for some time but had stomach issues.

Anotest like many other test boosters are a waste of time IMO as studies have shown most of them to be ineffective except for those that contain D-Aspartic Acid and even with those the effects are very temporary.

Currently I use Quick Mass Loaded by AllMax Nutrition with an intra-workout BCAA and the results are great, went from 180 to 204 in the last 6 months and still lean.

Spend some time I the sun, eat broccoli, almonds, meat, those will naturally boost testosterone. The sun exposure will aid vitamin D production which is needed by your body to manufacture and utilise testosterone.

[Norton12005]

Gold standard is also a blend, one of the best on the market IMO comparable to Whey Build by Fuel:One

I think they replaced the Pro-Complex Gainer with Pro Gainer another one of the best on the market, I used it for some time but had stomach issues.

Anotest like many other test boosters are a waste of time IMO as studies have shown most of them to be ineffective except for those that contain D-Aspartic Acid and even with those the effects are very temporary.

Currently I use Quick Mass Loaded by AllMax Nutrition with an intra-workout BCAA and the results are great, went from 180 to 204 in the last 6 months and still lean.

Spend some time I the sun, eat broccoli, almonds, meat, those will naturally boost testosterone. The sun exposure will aid vitamin D production which is needed by your body to manufacture and utilise testosterone.

DVSTT,

Sun?

[AllTrac]

some say when you stop pumping iron you retain a thick fat look for the rest of your life after serious steroid use

the some who told you that are probably 130lb skinny fat phaggots who do zumba and never lifted a weight in their life except the pink dumbbells.

[Trini Hookah]

Doh be on my pink dumbbells trac. We go fall out.

[AllTrac]

sorry, fuchsia

[16 cycles]

@ninjaboost - different blends....

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/pro.html

^Pro complex - no carbs in the macros

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/gainer.html

Pro gainer - carbs in the macros

[AllTrac]

btw, ALLMax isoflex chocolate taste awesome.

[DVSTT]

Gold standard is also a blend, one of the best on the market IMO comparable to Whey Build by Fuel:One

I think they replaced the Pro-Complex Gainer with Pro Gainer another one of the best on the market, I used it for some time but had stomach issues.

Anotest like many other test boosters are a waste of time IMO as studies have shown most of them to be ineffective except for those that contain D-Aspartic Acid and even with those the effects are very temporary.

Currently I use Quick Mass Loaded by AllMax Nutrition with an intra-workout BCAA and the results are great, went from 180 to 204 in the last 6 months and still lean.

Spend some time I the sun, eat broccoli, almonds, meat, those will naturally boost testosterone. The sun exposure will aid vitamin D production which is needed by your body to manufacture and utilise testosterone.

DVSTT,

Sun?

Your body can manufacture vitamin D given sun light.
Vitamin D in turn is used along with other nutrients to manufacture testosterone by the body.

[pugboy]

nobody aint ketch carnival dust sore throat & cold ?
end up on meds

[DVSTT]

nobody aint ketch carnival dust sore throat & cold ?
end up on meds

Nah. Staying far from people

[INHUMAN]

Gold standard is also a blend, one of the best on the market IMO comparable to Whey Build by Fuel:One

Currently I use Quick Mass Loaded by AllMax Nutrition with an intra-workout BCAA and the results are great, went from 180 to 204 in the last 6 months and still lean.

like ah man dus hit up bodymatrix... allmax is a good brand but prices steep! would love to see scitec stuff here!

some say when you stop pumping iron you retain a thick fat look for the rest of your life after serious steroid use

the some who told you that are probably 130lb skinny fat phaggots who do zumba and never lifted a weight in their life except the pink dumbbells.

and what abt the girls who say.."ewww thats gross"...and the guy just toned and not freaky huge like bodybuilders? btw...allmax choc mint tastes delicious!


BRB * taking magic pill*

[ninjaboost]

Gold standard is also a blend, one of the best on the market IMO comparable to Whey Build by Fuel:One

Currently I use Quick Mass Loaded by AllMax Nutrition with an intra-workout BCAA and the results are great, went from 180 to 204 in the last 6 months and still lean.

like ah man dus hit up bodymatrix... allmax is a good brand but prices steep! would love to see scitec stuff here!

Yup, I also get my stuff delivered by overPUMPED.com when I can't make it down south or to Shops of Arima

The price is a bit steep but worth it based on the servings per container

[VexXx Dogg]

where sells allmax isoflex?