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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby meccalli » April 22nd, 2015, 2:40 pm

:mrgreen:

lost, you liked Heath Ledger's joker? You know alot of people complained about him before the movie as well.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby STORM1234 » April 22nd, 2015, 2:41 pm

Advent wrote:Bruce Wayne or batman ? Anyone can play batman lol.....
I'm batman

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby STORM1234 » April 23rd, 2015, 1:30 pm

meccalli wrote::mrgreen:

lost, you liked Heath Ledger's joker? You know alot of people complained about him before the movie as well.



I guess time will tell how ben performs.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Swisha » April 24th, 2015, 9:49 pm

first image of Jared Leto as Joker

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Advent » April 25th, 2015, 9:57 am

Don't like the tat on the forehead , seems trying to hard.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Rory Phoulorie » April 25th, 2015, 10:00 am

If Spiderman can beat Batman (see scientific video analysis below), then Superman will open a can of whoop ass on Batman. Forget what the comics say, embrace the creative freedom of film.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby 1UZFE » April 25th, 2015, 11:00 am

Rory Phoulorie wrote:If Spiderman can beat Batman (see scientific video analysis below), then Spiderman will open a can of whoop ass on Supermanman. Forget what the comics say, embrace the creative freedom of film.

Fixed..

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Advent » April 25th, 2015, 3:38 pm

Hard luck batsy

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby dougla_boy » April 25th, 2015, 4:46 pm

Joker looking wicked......maniacal

An please eh....Bats will destroy Spiderman.....If he is the only human yo dodge Apokolips beams.....spiderman is nothing.....

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Advent » April 25th, 2015, 5:17 pm

Once again human bias towards a human character in a world of super human beings

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Richard Marshall » April 25th, 2015, 6:24 pm

[quote="Advent"]Once again human bias towards a human character in a world of super human beings

Batman makes the Justice League look more human than himself with that attitude he posseses.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby meccalli » April 25th, 2015, 7:04 pm

Advent wrote:Once again human bias towards a human character in a world of super human beings

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Hardly.
It shows the power of a powerful mind. Does Lex Luther ring a bell? Human arch nemesis of an unrestrained power such as superman?

Batman is much more than that, he's driven with obsession to borderline madness and paranoia and an amazing combatant. Superman if you haven't noticed, has 0 fight awareness. He sticks out his chest, bullets fails and he crushes the guys arm. These attributes weren't developed to bias one character against the other in a showdown, they were inherent in their respective development on ink over many years. People don't like batman for liking sake, we've grown up with a badass on paper who surpasses and outmanoeuvres anything and anyone he's ever come up against because of his determination and obsession to be the tipping weight in the scales of justice.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby dougla_boy » April 25th, 2015, 9:47 pm

Lolwhut?


Nuh u eh mecalLi but advent dey

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Advent » April 26th, 2015, 8:53 am

So wait batman can beat braniac? Who has knowledge from travelling the universe? Who superman has beaten without prep time? MecalLi really?

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby dougla_boy » April 26th, 2015, 9:09 am

Lol....cuz the man study his prey...that means its his weakness?

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby 1UZFE » April 26th, 2015, 9:24 am

Look at Justice league throne of atlantis. Wat did superman do? It was Bats who came up with d idea to defeat d atlantians Superman is clueless.
I am still waitin for someone to post Where did superman actually beat batman. Batman has defeated superman on more than 2 occasions. He even brush supes girls ie louis laine and wonder woman.
The Joker is a more formidable opponent than Lex luthor as well.
I memory serves didnt poison ivy defeat superman aswell???

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby sMASH » April 26th, 2015, 10:20 am

They could have written all that, but supes just need to avoid kryptonite and he good.

If I was supes, I would jess take a building and lash bats with it. He woulda wish he stayed in his cave.




Wrt soujiro, kenshi talked soujiro out of beating him. He made him mentally unable to go through his moves.
Kenshi went through many tireing and damaging fights before whooping shishio's ass.
Kenshi beat his squad and then beat him.
But he didn't beat soujiro, soujiro stopped.


Soujiro against the godlike speed is a different matter.


( the comments made above were based on the cartoon and not the movie)

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby mero » April 26th, 2015, 10:40 am

Of course in the comics and animation superman will never beat batman, it wont take much to... Yes he's made to look like a strategic genius but lets be real, how long can you dodge laser fricking beams, freeze breath, super strength, super speed, x ray Vision, invulnerability and flight?

Is only so far batman could pelt a kryptonite and shoot his grappling hook yuh know :roll:

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby 1UZFE » April 26th, 2015, 10:46 am

sMASH wrote:They could have written all that, but supes just need to avoid kryptonite and he good.

If I was supes, I would jess take a building and lash bats with it. He woulda wish he stayed in his cave.




Wrt soujiro, kenshi talked soujiro out of beating him. He made him mentally unable to go through his moves.
Kenshi went through many tireing and damaging fights before whooping shishio's ass.
Kenshi beat his squad and then beat him.
But he didn't beat soujiro, soujiro stopped.


Soujiro against the godlike speed is a different matter.


( the comments made above were based on the cartoon and not the movie)

Yh. Sojiro vs kensin hav rel potential for debate.
But i kno for certain Shishio cud hav beaten all his generals. He is that kinda guy he also trained Sojiro. But kenshin did beat him (Shishio). I wonder if this would be that kenshin cud beat the master but not d student. ??
Also Hiko (kenshin master) was werl boss.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Advent » April 26th, 2015, 11:10 am

Mero that's why its written that batman could beat superman because batman is a human and Superman is basically a god, so all the comic writers who write batman beating supes would appeal to being human. Also Batman don't seem to get tired wonder how long batman coould fight

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby meccalli » April 26th, 2015, 1:55 pm

sMASH wrote:But he didn't beat soujiro, soujiro stopped.

lol...no way jose

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His Shutensatsu is nearly equal to battosai's ultimate with the exception of the power coming from the left foot. Yumi remarked before the final standoff that they were both going at it full strength, despite the fact Kenshin just came off a death match with Aoshi and expended A TON of energy and purposefully taking blows and cuts.
Soujiro also remarked that he put away his reservations and would kill kenshin with the shuten before he hits to ground to find the truth. The hiten mitsurugi's ultimate is so fast, the best showing of it occurred in Aoshi's fight. Kenshin only executed it when Leader's kaiten kenbu rokuren had the kodachis mere centimetres from kenshin's carotid artery before kenshin even drew his blade, meaning that it happens after the enemies attack and before its executed.

Like Hiko said, it's the ultimate technique, unbeatable. Idk how anyone could even debate that seeing that kenshin executed a full power ultimate on shishio after he was nearly dead and bleeding pools.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby meccalli » April 26th, 2015, 2:11 pm

Advent wrote:So wait batman can beat braniac? Who has knowledge from travelling the universe? Who superman has beaten without prep time? MecalLi really?

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What does that have to do with anything? You guys are completely out of context with your speculations. You don't seem to have a problem with smartman Lex restraining superman on multiple occasions.

mero wrote:Is only so far batman could pelt a kryptonite and shoot his grappling hook yuh know


That's why your not batman, only you would consider pelting him with kryptonite. lol
Batman's a master of disguise, wears lead in his masks, ratholes all over gotham. Could probably list a whole lot more ridiculously paranoid precautions than I don't want to type that Batman could indirectly stay covert, bait supes and lock him down considering clark has no developed 6th sense guard because he's so used to nothing being able to harm him. There's a reason sucker punches work and hurt, you don't expect it...Bats being a ninja solidifies that tact all too well.

But in spite of all that..
he goes and does the unexpected, because he respects supes and confronts him man to man.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby sMASH » April 27th, 2015, 12:06 am

After a while being around bats, supes would get accustomed to his sh!z. He is not a total moron, he would be smart enough to know to avoid bats, and only touch him with a ten foot pole.
Supes senses aren't turned on or off, they are always working. He bound to hear bats trying to sneak up on him.



Wrt soujiro, maybe I need to watch it over again since its been over a decade since I last saw it.
But I could remember him saying that he had two more moves to make before he reaches his ultimate potential.
Kenshi reasoned with him a suggested that he may have been misguided. Because he is older then, he questioned what he was doing. And so didn't really beat Kenshi/allowed Kenshi to win.

Shishio guided him with his ability. Soujiro imo was badder dan Shishio. Its just hat Soujiro saw himself as being greatful to Shishio for taking him in, and doesn't have any urge to lead, so prefers to remain a member of the squad instead of fighting for it.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby sMASH » April 27th, 2015, 12:08 am

Shishio wasn't leader because he was the best fighter, although he was in he top ranks. He was a good manipulator, which made him able to gather the others from the group to be he group .

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby meccalli » April 27th, 2015, 6:46 am

Yeah, you need to look at it again. Shishio formed the Juppongatana because he couldn't fight for too long, not because he was a manipulator although it was part of his repertoire. Shishio command was so because he was the strongest, he has an amazing ability to decipher attacks in a single instant and counter it instantly. Shishio made Sojiro, he understands his technique and ultimate fully.

Who knows if this was possibly shishio's original technique that he moved away from after his injuries because of the amount of movement and energy it requires to something as efficient as the mugenjin.
Someone had to sensei Sojiro extremely well obviously. Stuff like saito's point blank 0 style gatotsu was just flicked off like nothing by shishio. When Aoshi used his ultimate, even though they never fought nor used it in his presence. 'Stupid move', was the remark. If you were to ask me, I say he studied nearly all of the greatest sword techniques and either became extremely familiar or proficient in using them to develop his style that counters so easily. Mugenjin means unlimited blade actually.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby 1UZFE » April 27th, 2015, 7:02 am

sMASH wrote:Shishio wasn't leader because he was the best fighter, although he was in he top ranks. He was a good manipulator, which made him able to gather the others from the group to be he group .

Have to disagree a bit bro.. Shishio was driven to be the greatest just like Aoshi.
Also when Sanosuke punched him he repelled the blow, this shows that he was aware of all his generals strenghts and he had the ability to defeat them.
One of Shishio greatest strenghts is knowing his opponent's moves hence he was able to read Kenshin, Saito,and Aoshi's Running River.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby 1UZFE » April 27th, 2015, 7:06 am

meccalli wrote:
Advent wrote:Once again human bias towards a human character in a world of super human beings

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Hardly.
It shows the power of a powerful mind. Does Lex Luther ring a bell? Human arch nemesis of an unrestrained power such as superman?

Batman is much more than that, he's driven with obsession to borderline madness and paranoia and an amazing combatant. Superman if you haven't noticed, has 0 fight awareness. He sticks out his chest, bullets fails and he crushes the guys arm. These attributes weren't developed to bias one character against the other in a showdown, they were inherent in their respective development on ink over many years. People don't like batman for liking sake, we've grown up with a badass on paper who surpasses and outmanoeuvres anything and anyone he's ever come up against because of his determination and obsession to be the tipping weight in the scales of justice.

Darkseid's Omega beam comes to mind.

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby dougla_boy » April 27th, 2015, 7:14 am

so lewwe keep d ched on track wit Batman V Superman nuh plz....

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby Advent » April 27th, 2015, 8:42 am

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Advent wrote:Once again human bias towards a human character in a world of super human beings

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Hardly.
It shows the power of a powerful mind. Does Lex Luther ring a bell? Human arch nemesis of an unrestrained power such as superman?

Batman is much more than that, he's driven with obsession to borderline madness and paranoia and an amazing combatant. Superman if you haven't noticed, has 0 fight awareness. He sticks out his chest, bullets fails and he crushes the guys arm. These attributes weren't developed to bias one character against the other in a showdown, they were inherent in their respective development on ink over many years. People don't like batman for liking sake, we've grown up with a badass on paper who surpasses and outmanoeuvres anything and anyone he's ever come up against because of his determination and obsession to be the tipping weight in the scales of justice.

Darkseid's Omega beam comes to mind.


what comes to mind with it ? that somehow magically he can dodge it while flash cant ?
flash can think at the speed of light, just goes to show writer bias for batman..

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Re: Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice

Postby dougla_boy » April 27th, 2015, 8:47 am

admit it dan...batman is the baddest.....e go break yuh foot and give yuh pain killers and put u in hospital

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