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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby 16 cycles » July 23rd, 2016, 5:18 am

EGT and AFR sensors are great tools for tuning.....cost to tap a bung for EGT less than an engine...your call...

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby Lance » July 23rd, 2016, 7:10 am

Just to be clear. The stock up pipe was modified to have an egt bung? So it has 2 sensors on it currently? The o2 and EGT?

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 9:18 am

No the car originally has an egt sensor in the uppipe that jacks to the factory harness and there is an o2 in the manifold itself

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 9:19 am

This is the original sensor

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby racedriverpro » July 23rd, 2016, 9:40 am

Put it back to be safe.

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Postby Lance » July 23rd, 2016, 1:40 pm

boosted_wrx wrote:No the car originally has an egt sensor in the uppipe that jacks to the factory harness and there is an o2 in the manifold itself

As far I as know, the factory harness doesn't have an input for exhaust gas temperature. You really need to verify exactly what the sensor is, where the signal is going and what failsafe/calculation it is responsible for.

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 1:49 pm

It is an egt, the early gd series Wrx has an egt in the up pipe , the Sti didn't but I'm not sure if I could just leave it out, I'm trying to call the tuner but he not answering

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 1:50 pm

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby Lance » July 23rd, 2016, 2:09 pm

Ah ok. This is only for cars that have the cat on the up pipe. Apparently it's used to monitor that aspect. My JDM motor doesn't have this.

If you are using a catless up pipe then the sensor would have no real functionality.

Talk to your mechanic/tuner. They will advise you on the best way forward. Most will probably have you leave it unplugged and they will clear the code on the ECU.
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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 2:12 pm

Ahhhhh .......... Thank you very much, I was doing some reading about it but wanted to make sure , my uppipe don't have space for it. So I'll leave it out and let them disable it when going to tune. Thank you very much.

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby Lance » July 23rd, 2016, 2:29 pm

No problem. There is also a hack where you can use resistors to trick the ecu into believing that things are fine. But disabling the code on ecuflash is probably best.

I did something similar when I installed a long runner manifold and didn't have the TGVs again.

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 3:23 pm

I'm currently in the process of porting out my tgvs and also installing some headers uppipe and 18g so I wanted to make sure I'm doing everything correctly

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby racedriverpro » July 23rd, 2016, 5:08 pm

Can anyone confirm whether a td04hla19t (i believe this turbo is used in the bl5 gt mt) is a direct bolt on replacement for the vf38?

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 5:10 pm

Vf38 is single scroll right ?

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby racedriverpro » July 23rd, 2016, 5:12 pm

Vf38 is twin scroll

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 5:14 pm

Well the td04 19t is a twin scroll Subaru turbo, it should fit direct bolt up to your uppipe from the vf38

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 5:15 pm

The uppipes are pretty much standardized for the twin scroll application as well as the single scroll applications

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby racedriverpro » July 23rd, 2016, 5:47 pm

Really looking to have a really reliable turbo set up that can be effectively repaired if required. Don't knw if i can have that with the vf38.

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The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 7:39 pm

I have a vf 37 twin scroll for sale
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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 23rd, 2016, 7:39 pm

Call me if interested 488-1216

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 28th, 2016, 11:06 pm

Doing the injector decap mod, just wanna know if the little black cap around the end of the bottom portion on the injector is to be reinstalled ?

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby Lance » July 29th, 2016, 10:19 am

It may be a bottom fuel seal for part of the injector that goes into the intake. If it doesn't obscure the decapped then it shouldn't be an issue to leave it attached.

You would want to make sure the process was successful though. Or else you would end up with a broken engine. Fuel supply is paramount.

You should get the objectors flow tested to ensure that they are all flowing within a reasonable range. You do not want unequal flow across the injectors- IDs are expensive partially because they provide well matched sets.

Flow testing will also give you an idea of the atomisation. Remember is not all about cc flow. You want the spray pattern to be even and well balanced.

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby boosted_wrx » July 30th, 2016, 9:47 am

Lance wrote:It may be a bottom fuel seal for part of the injector that goes into the intake. If it doesn't obscure the decapped then it shouldn't be an issue to leave it attached.

You would want to make sure the process was successful though. Or else you would end up with a broken engine. Fuel supply is paramount.

You should get the objectors flow tested to ensure that they are all flowing within a reasonable range. You do not want unequal flow across the injectors- IDs are expensive partially because they provide well matched sets.

Flow testing will also give you an idea of the atomisation. Remember is not all about cc flow. You want the spray pattern to be even and well balanced.

That's true, makes sense, thank you for the advice, by chance does anyone do flow testing locally ? It is the bottom fuel seal

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby racedriverpro » July 30th, 2016, 10:02 am

Sookhai's Diesel

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby air wick » August 9th, 2016, 10:10 am

racedriverpro wrote:Sookhai's Diesel


No they don't flow test. They only do the ultra sonic cleaning. I sent a set of Subaru injectors to clean there in Feb. this year and requested a flow test and they told me they don't do it.

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby 16 cycles » August 10th, 2016, 2:49 pm

swear i saw a clean an flow test machine by Bird...

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby rylan1996 » August 10th, 2016, 3:05 pm

Yeah bird does it.

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby Lance » August 10th, 2016, 3:18 pm

He cleans them ultrasonically and can flow them to see how matched they are (before and after the cleaning). What I don't think the machine does with precision is tell you how much cc's/min each injector is flowing. Possibly the machine has an add-on where you can print out the flow results, not sure.

But you can watch each flow reservoir and have a reasonable idea of what the flow/min is like.

To me the main concern is knowing that they are matched, even if you can't tell the cc/min with precise values. Once you have an average to input into the tuning software then you can adjust it as you tune.

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby racedriverpro » August 11th, 2016, 9:09 am

any stock LGT owners on the inside?

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Re: The Tuning Thread- EJ Motor

Postby Lance » August 14th, 2016, 6:53 am

What's everyone up to three wise tuning and management wise? New tune-able mods to install?

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