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Stock market action - Sagicor sold! AND - Republic acquires Scotiabank's operations in nine Caribbean countries!

Postby snatman » November 27th, 2018, 8:55 am

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Port-of-Spain, Trinidad: Tuesday November 27, 2018 – Today, Republic Financial Holdings Limited (RFHL) announced that it has entered into an agreement to acquire Scotiabank’s banking operations in Guyana, St. Maarten and the Eastern Caribbean territories, including Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Dominica, Grenada, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, and St. Vincent and the Grenadines. The purchase price is USD 123 million, which represents USD 25 million consideration for total shareholding of Scotiabank Anguilla Limited; and a premium of USD 98 million over net asset value for operations in the remaining eight (8) countries. This price does not include any amounts required to capitalize the branches post-closing. The agreement, executed on November 27, 2018 signalled the commencement of a transaction that is subject to all regulatory and other customary approvals and conditions.


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Sagicor to be acquired by Canadian company
Sagicor Financial Corporation Limited (“Sagicor”), which is listed on the Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago and London Stock Exchanges, announced today that it has entered into a definitive arrangement agreement (“Arrangement Agreement”) with Alignvest Acquisition II Corporation (“Alignvest”, TSX:AQY.A, AQY.WT) pursuant to which Alignvest will acquire all the shares of Sagicor by way of a scheme of arrangement under the laws of Bermuda, where Sagicor is incorporated, at a price of US$1.75 per share (such resulting entity, “New Sagicor”) with an aggregate value of approximately US $536 million. Alignvest is a special purpose acquisition corporation that listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange in May 2017 and raised, or received subscriptions for, an aggregate of C$565 million. Alignvest has no current operations and this proposed business combination with Sagicor is intended to be its sole and only qualifying acquisition. Once regulatory approval is received, Sagicor will be listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX); consequently Sagicor will delist from the Barbados Stock Exchange, the Trinidad and Tobago Stock Exchange and the London Stock Exchange.

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Postby hydroep » November 27th, 2018, 9:05 am

Whey boi...power being concentrated in the hands of a few.

Fee increases, job cuts to follow?

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Postby janfar » November 27th, 2018, 9:17 am

Too much liquid cash sitting in bank accounts. They have to launder it before US starts the FATCA audits.

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Postby mitch1980 » November 27th, 2018, 9:26 am

RBL is a well tuned financial beast of an operation ......10 straight yrs of over 900 mil after tax profit ....Most consistent company in tnt and possible Caribbean for the same period


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Postby Dizzy28 » November 27th, 2018, 9:39 am

Apparently staff of Scotia found out about this yesterday, same time as the public

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 27th, 2018, 9:41 am

hydroep wrote:Whey boi...power being concentrated in the hands of a few.

Fee increases, job cuts to follow?


Looking at the shareholdings of the banks it is clear a few major conglomerates own everything. However GORTT is a player with NIB and Unit Trust also being major shareholders of publicly traded companies.

RBC playing it smart, they are in the top 10 largest shareholders for both RBL and Scotia.

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Postby snatman » November 27th, 2018, 9:41 am

Republic is gearing up nicely for the Guyana oil boom! Stock price could easily double in a couple years or less

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Postby neilsingh100 » November 27th, 2018, 9:47 am

T&T Government is the majority shareholder in Republic after shares were transferred from Clico.

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Postby agent007 » November 27th, 2018, 9:50 am

Not entirely accurate. Some staff of SBTT knew to some extent of some strategic changes taking place within the region. It is safer to say that the majority of staff at RHL did not know their Group would be expanding.

RBC and Scotiabank are de-risking and this is a measure of concern for me. There has to be a reason why they opted to even give up on Guyana which has excellent growth potential for any organization.

Lastly, wrt Sagicor, I'm not surprised this happened. There was a recent government change and their economy is considered just above junk status by S&P and Moody's.

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 27th, 2018, 9:59 am

agent007 wrote:Not entirely accurate. Some staff of SBTT knew to some extent of some strategic changes taking place within the region. It is safer to say that the majority of staff at RHL did not know their Group would be expanding.

RBC and Scotiabank are de-risking and this is a measure of concern for me. There has to be a reason why they opted to even give up on Guyana which has excellent growth potential for any organization.

Lastly, wrt Sagicor, I'm not surprised this happened. There was a recent government change and their economy is considered just above junk status by S&P and Moody's.


Have to be pretty small group of staff to know. My sis-in-law is an asst manager in Head office and neither she nor anyone in her floor knew.

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Postby snatman » November 27th, 2018, 9:59 am

It would be interesting to find out who is the mystery buyer of Clico's insurance operations!!

I'm hearing all kinda names - Massy, NCBFG, ANSA, Sagicor... none of the above....

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 27th, 2018, 10:00 am

neilsingh100 wrote:T&T Government is the majority shareholder in Republic after shares were transferred from Clico.


According to their 2018 annual report the largest shareholders are

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Postby agent007 » November 27th, 2018, 10:03 am

Well dizzy, perhaps you are aware of the 2nd part of the news circulating internally then? It's confidential I understand, so I couldn't post it. But maybe you can if you want..edit**btw an Assistant Manager A70-A73 is no position really so I'm not surprised she is not in the know.**
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Postby antlind » November 27th, 2018, 10:03 am

Scotiabanks divestment of the branches in the EC islands should not come as a surprise. From an economic standpoint those islands are struggling and bank employee salaries and pensions etc are a major expense. I’d be surprised if Scotia was turning a profit in those islands.

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Postby VexXx Dogg » November 27th, 2018, 10:12 am

hmmmmmm

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 27th, 2018, 10:12 am

agent007 wrote:Well dizzy, perhaps you are aware of the 2nd part of the news circulating internally then? It's confidential I understand, so I couldn't post it. But maybe you can if you want..edit**btw an Assistant Manager A70-A73 is no position really so I'm not surprised she is not in the know.**


She hasn't said anything more than they finding out same time as John Public.
The only thing she said further is that all the regional positions personnel based here are already worried what this means for their jobs.

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Postby agent007 » November 27th, 2018, 10:14 am

Yup, T&T is the hub for many ops throughout the island-chain so it would be safe to assume that there is some job security at risk.

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Postby snatman » November 27th, 2018, 10:31 am

Sagicor's buyer is also acquiring Scotiabank's life insurance operations in Trinidad and Jamaica

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Postby The_Honourable » November 27th, 2018, 10:54 am

There was an article some years ago stating that Canadian banks were in trouble in the Caribbean and possibility of derisking. Not long after, RBC began to shaft customers. Scotiabank much less so, their operations stopped expanding after "Scotia Insurance" and have been relatively quiet.

Understand Scotiabank divesting their EC operations but divest their Guyana operations? A country that is about to or already in an energy boom? They didn't give up on the T&T operations though which is interesting.

Pretty much, Scotia Caribbean was gutted instead of an all out sell off.

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Postby bluefete » November 27th, 2018, 11:41 am

Word on the street is that Sagicor is getting both Clico and Petrotrin (allegedly) because Guardian does not want them. Remember JMMB is poised to take over Guardian.

Also Lok Jack and Ahamad families are key shareholders in Sagicor and Guardian.

But me eh know, nah.

snatman wrote:It would be interesting to find out who is the mystery buyer of Clico's insurance operations!!

I'm hearing all kinda names - Massy, NCBFG, ANSA, Sagicor... none of the above....

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Postby 88sins » November 27th, 2018, 12:17 pm

RBL planning this move awhile now, almost a year, remember, they took over another bank in the region just this year.
rbl pushing hard to develop their assets & acquire others for years now, the plan being to become THE dominant financial institution in the region.

That sagicor sale don't surprise me much tho, I heard revenues from insurance sales dropped quite a bit in recent years, that coupled with investments not yielding as much as they used to & expenses & claims keep going upwards, the sale was coming sooner or later.

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Postby rebound » November 27th, 2018, 4:20 pm

Alignvest was registered last year in Canada.....sounds sort of Bridgemanesque eh...

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Postby Coppershot » November 27th, 2018, 5:05 pm

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-27/scotiabank-caribbean-retreat-marks-shift-after-129-year-presence

Bank of Nova Scotia’s retreat from parts of the Caribbean marks a turnabout for a Canadian lender initially drawn to the region 129 years ago by the thriving trade in rum, sugar and fish.

Scotiabank agreed to sell its banking operations in nine of the 21 Caribbean markets it operates in -- Anguilla, Antigua, Dominica, Grenada, Guyana, St. Kitts & Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Maarten, St. Vincent & the Grenadines -- to Republic Financial Holdings Ltd. Terms weren’t disclosed. The bank is also selling insurance operations in Jamaica and Trinidad & Tobago in a deal involving Sagicor Financial Corp. The moves come as the bank focuses on “core markets with significant scale,” the Toronto-based lender said in a statement.

The Caribbean has attracted Canada’s lenders for more than 100 years, with Royal Bank of Canada and Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce following after Scotiabank, whose Caribbean foray began with an office in Kingston, Jamaica, in 1889. That was eight years before the lender opened a branch in Toronto. Scotiabank, Royal Bank and CIBC today remain the dominant foreign lenders in the region.

Canadians will get a new connection to the Caribbean following Scotiabank’s insurance transaction. Sagicor, based in Barbados and listed in London, also struck a 20-year insurance-distribution deal with Scotiabank and agreed to be bought by Toronto-based Alignvest Acquisition II Corp. The surviving entity will continue the Sagicor brand and will be publicly listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange.

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Postby sMASH » November 27th, 2018, 7:10 pm

does that observation have anything to tie into what growlers was talking about we might loose the small islands as a buyer of fuel?

i find it odd that he would jump out and say that, and odd that it would have reason for it to be said. then all of a sudden scotia de risking.

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Postby neilsingh100 » November 27th, 2018, 7:35 pm

If the transaction goes through in Guyana, Republic will control more than 50% of commercial bank assets and market share in Guyana.

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Postby airuma » November 28th, 2018, 12:02 pm

88sins wrote:RBL planning this move awhile now, almost a year, remember, they took over another bank in the region just this year.
rbl pushing hard to develop their assets & acquire others for years now, the plan being to become THE dominant financial institution in the region.

That sagicor sale don't surprise me much tho, I heard revenues from insurance sales dropped quite a bit in recent years, that coupled with investments not yielding as much as they used to & expenses & claims keep going upwards, the sale was coming sooner or later.

Is it that RBL has been pushing for it or Nova Scotia is no longer interested in the "small island" Caribbean and the best offer came from RBL? Could it be that the Guyana asset was included during negotiations?

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Postby snatman » November 28th, 2018, 12:34 pm

So this company was formed last year apparently for the purpose of acquiring Sagicor and Scotia's insurance business?

Are they also the mystery buyers of CLICO's insurance portfolio??? Hmmmmmmmm....

rebound wrote:Alignvest was registered last year in Canada.....sounds sort of Bridgemanesque eh...

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 28th, 2018, 1:12 pm

snatman wrote:So this company was formed last year apparently for the purpose of acquiring Sagicor and Scotia's insurance business?

Are they also the mystery buyers of CLICO's insurance portfolio??? Hmmmmmmmm....

rebound wrote:Alignvest was registered last year in Canada.....sounds sort of Bridgemanesque eh...


Were they only formed last year?
This Bloomberg article from 2014 makes reference to them
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -alignvest

They issued an IPO last year.

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Postby rebound » November 28th, 2018, 1:26 pm

The company formed for this aquisition is Alignvest Acquisition Corp II....which shows no operations before this.

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 28th, 2018, 1:34 pm

rebound wrote:The company formed for this aquisition is Alignvest Acquisition Corp II....which shows no operations before this.


Its a SPAC (Special Purpose Acquisition Corporation).
The management and board contains more or less the same people as the original Alignvest

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