Ukraine Russia War

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Russia has to save the allied forces, once again

sMOTHERED,

World War II lasted six years and was fought in the European, African, Asian and Pacific theaters of war. The Soviet Union only fought Germany during the last four years of the war in Europe only.

It's okay to have a seething hatred of the United States. The US doesn't like a lot people, and doesn't mind that they know it. But, try to get the facts straight for your little insults, sMOTHERED.

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Ukraine claims to have reclaimed territory from Russia prior to Wagner rebellion

Ukraine claims it has taken back territory in the east that was held by Russia since it annexed Crimea in 2014.

According to military officials in Tavria in southeastern Ukraine, Ukrainian forces have captured "territories near Krasnohorivka in Donetsk" and are continuing to advance, state media Ukrinform reports.

Another Ukrainian official claimed that Russian forces had been pushed out of the area about a week ago, but the information was not made public for "tactical reasons."

Ukrainian forces claim to have taken the area prior to the Wagner insurrection but only announced it Saturday.

CNN cannot independently verify battlefield reports.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-new ... index.html

[SuperiorMan]

Wagner chief says he ordered his Russian mercenaries to halt march on Moscow


https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... a4116058d1

The head of the Wagner force said Saturday he has ordered his mercenaries to halt their march on Moscow and retreat to their field camps in Ukraine to avoid shedding Russian blood.

[SuperiorMan]

Well that was quick.

[maj. tom]

Reading that Prigozhin is even more right wing extremist than Putin and he was actually a competent military leader .... And his plan wasn't peace with Ukraine.


Seem like he made a deal with Putin during the Moscow advance and his entire unit stopped and was given safe refuge in Belarus now.

[The_Honourable]

[sMASH]

Well that was quick.

Still better than the spring offensive.


He wss like 'lemme show u how to do a January 6th'

[sMASH]

Ukraine claims to have reclaimed territory from Russia prior to Wagner rebellion

Ukraine claims it has taken back territory in the east that was held by Russia since it annexed Crimea in 2014.

According to military officials in Tavria in southeastern Ukraine, Ukrainian forces have captured "territories near Krasnohorivka in Donetsk" and are continuing to advance, state media Ukrinform reports.

Another Ukrainian official claimed that Russian forces had been pushed out of the area about a week ago, but the information was not made public for "tactical reasons."

Ukrainian forces claim to have taken the area prior to the Wagner insurrection but only announced it Saturday.

CNN cannot independently verify battlefield reports.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-new ... index.html

Keep it going,,,

[sMASH]

If putin is a vile dictator, how he ain't kill pregozhin and his generals yet?

[Dohplaydat]

If putin is a vile dictator, how he ain't kill pregozhin and his generals yet?

Because without Wagner Russia loses the war, i think the situation in Russia is complicated AF right now with no clear answers.

Why did Prigozhin choose now? Zelanski just said days before things weren't going as well as they'd hope with the CO. Thing were leaning slightly Russia's way.

Did Putin or Shoigu think they no longer needed Wagner and wanted to disband and kill Prigozhin? What was Prigozhin's real intention?

Honestly, i have no idea, just don't think it's over yet

The Leader of the Wagner PMC Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin has spoken for the first time since his attempted “Coup” against the Russian Ministry of Defense stating, “Despite the fact that we did not show any Aggression, a Missile Attack was launched on us. 30 Fighters were Killed and others were Injured. This served as a trigger for our Immediate Advance. One of the Columns went to Rostov, the other towards Moscow. Was not a single Soldier was Killed on the Ground. We regret that we had to Strike at Aircraft, but they Attacked us with Bombs. We traveled 780 km, this is 200km to Moscow and we Blocked all Military Bases and Airfields along the way. Among the PMC Fighters, there are several Wounded and 2 Dead - among them Employees of the Ministry of Defense that decided to join our Cause. None of the PMC Fighters was Forced to March, and everyone knew his Goal. Our March showed Serious Security Problems across our Country but it was never our Goal to Overthrow the current Regime and Legally-Elected Government.”

[sMASH]

So elenski gonna wait till Russia settle out its issues re groups and then attack?

What is elenski doing? Is he sleeping?

[The_Honourable]

If putin is a vile dictator, how he ain't kill pregozhin and his generals yet?

Last three minutes. This could be the answer, only time would tell.

[Dohplaydat]

So elenski gonna wait till Russia settle out its issues re groups and then attack?

What is elenski doing? Is he sleeping?

When everyone is lying about their success

[Dohplaydat]

BREAKING: CHIEF OF WAGNER BREAKS HIS SILENCE AFTER 'MUTINY'

There has been absolute silence from Putin and Wagner's Prigozhin since the mutiny, with rumors circulating about the house arrest of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and various theories attempting to explain why Wagner halted their 'march' towards Moscow.

We know that Prigozhin and Lukashenko (President of Belarus) negotiated a deal which included dropping all charges against Prigozhin, who will move to Belarus. The agreement reportedly included the integration of the Wagner mercenary group into the Russian military.

PRIGOZHIN'S STATEMENT:

Prigozhin has now broken his silence by releasing an 11-minute audio message providing further details on what happened and the current deal.

Here are some translated excerpts from the audio file:

"Our forces were hit by missiles and helicopters, even though we did not show any hostility.

We had planned to make a showy handover of military technologies in Rostov on June 30, but we were bombed.

Wagner was supposed to cease to exist on July 1; no one agreed to sign a contract with the defense ministry.

We began our march due to injustice. We showed no aggression, but we were attacked by missiles and helicopters.

This was the trigger.

We demonstrated how February 24, 2022, (how Russia invaded Ukraine), should have looked.

We turned around to avoid shedding the blood of Russian soldiers. We regret that we had to target Russian aviation.

The aim of the march was to prevent the destruction of Wagner. We wanted to hold those who made mistakes accountable during the special military operation.

We did not march to overthrow Russia's leadership."

PRIGOZHIN'S POINTS:

According to Prigozhin, Wagner initiated their march as a form of protest. The Wagner columns halted their progress just over 200 km away from Moscow, with the entire march spanning 780 km. When, in his view, bloodshed seemed imminent, his forces stopped.

Prigozhin does not deny that retaliatory strikes were made on Russian aircrafts, attributing it to self-defense.

This was due to 30 Wagner members being killed, as reported by PBS.

Prigozhin claims that Lukashenko proposed a solution for Wagner to remain under Belarus' jurisdiction.

According to Prigozhin, the "march for justice" highlighted issues within the Russian Armed Forces and law enforcement agencies. He believes that if Wagner had fulfilled their tasks at the beginning of the Special Operations Forces, the outcome would have been different ("we demonstrated the outcome the Russian army was supposed to achieve").

Prigozhin is now advocating a different perspective, distinct from what was conveyed on Friday-Saturday: the march was an act of protest, not disobedience. He believes that Wagner exhibited a "master class," receiving widespread support, while the Russian Armed Forces and law enforcement agencies were weaker in comparison.

There were no remarks made regarding Shoigu (Minister of Defense) and Gerasimov (Chief of the General Staff), despite both of them previously being the focus of his apparent mutiny.

Prigozhin also mentioned that one of the objectives of the march was to expose significant security issues in the country.

MY THOUGHTS:

- Prigozhin’s claim that the Russian Defense Ministry wanted Wagner to "cease to exist" is interesting, as it suggests that the 'mutiny' was more of a survival response by Wagner's chief rather than a planned event. This contradicts the earlier briefing by US Defense Officials to congressional leaders, which stated that Wagner had been preparing for such a move by gathering military equipment and personnel near Russia.

- In his audio messages, Prigozhin refrained from naming anyone, including his adversaries Shoigu and Gerasimov. This lack of confrontation could indicate that Prigozhin was either forced to back down (according to British Intelligence 'sources,' his family was threatened with harm) or that his chances of success were slim (considering the public support for Putin from many high-ranking officials during the mutiny). Another possibility is that Prigozhin's actions were not originally planned as assumed (although I doubt it, given the speed with which he advanced).

- Prigozhin mentioned that Lukashenko "offered to find ways for Wagner to continue its work legally," contradicting earlier reports that the mercenary group was to be integrated into the Russian military. If Wagner is not dissolved or weakened, it will remain a threat to Putin's hold on power.

IN SUMMARY:

Prigozhin's audio message confirms his presence in Belarus, but it provides little else. Putin's level of control over the Kremlin remains uncertain, and further actions are necessary to address the damage caused over the weekend.

Do you agree with my analysis? WILL PUTIN'S RUSSIA RECOVER?

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Wagner Group shot down 6 Russian helicopters and a plane during its mini rebellion, Ukraine says, weakening Putin's air force at a time when it could prove critical

Wagner forces destroyed six Russian helicopters and a plane amid its short rebellion, Ukraine says.

It weakened Putin's air forces, though Russia is said to be attacking as before in Ukraine.

Nonetheless, chaos like this gives Ukraine a "window of opportunity," a defense official said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wagner- ... ine-2023-6

[Dizzy28]

So elenski gonna wait till Russia settle out its issues re groups and then attack?

What is elenski doing? Is he sleeping?

Is the Z broken on your keyboard?

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So elenski gonna wait till Russia settle out its issues re groups and then attack?

What is elenski doing? Is he sleeping?

Is the Z broken on your keyboard?

:) A whole lot is broken over there.

[sMASH]

So elenski gonna wait till Russia settle out its issues re groups and then attack?

What is elenski doing? Is he sleeping?

Is the Z broken on your keyboard?

:) A whole lot is broken over there.

Zelensky banned its use since the Russian vehicles thst went to kiev had z painted on.
So in honor, i respect elenski's ban

[sMASH]

Rite, pregozhin is in belarus, Russia is down 6 choppers, snd using soviet tanks , time foe elenski to take back the donbas

[sMASH]

https://youtu.be/FSLotdNMB4Y


Trailer for the counter offensive looking good. Hope they drop a few more before it releases next year

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So elenski gonna wait until Russia settle out its issues re groups and then attack?

What is elenski doing? Is he sleeping?

Is the Z broken on your keyboard?

:) A whole lot is broken over there.

Zelensky banned its use since the Russian vehicles thst went to kiev had z painted on.
So in honor, i respect elenski's ban

sCREWED,

But how do you ban the use of a letter that doesn't exist in the Ukrainian language? Or in the Russian language? That didn't happen, and you must have just been trying to be funny.

Z is just the symbol that was used to mark Russian military vehicles that invaded Ukraine. Z has come to mean propagandist support of the war. So, you dropping the Z, is you fully embracing the illegality of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. For the same reason, some companies, Samsung, for instance, have quietly dropped Z from their model designations.

You have embraced the change, sCREWED. Russia has simply become a shadow of itself.

[sMASH]

So elenski gonna wait until Russia settle out its issues re groups and then attack?

What is elenski doing? Is he sleeping?

Is the Z broken on your keyboard?

:) A whole lot is broken over there.

Zelensky banned its use since the Russian vehicles thst went to kiev had z painted on.
So in honor, i respect elenski's ban

sCREWED,

But how do you ban the use of a letter that doesn't exist in the Ukrainian language? Or in the Russian language? That didn't happen, and you must have just been trying to be funny.

Z is just the symbol that was used to mark Russian military vehicles that invaded Ukraine. Z has come to mean propagandist support of the war. So, you dropping the Z, is you fully embracing the illegality of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. For the same reason, some companies, Samsung, for instance, have quietly dropped Z from their model designations.

You have embraced the change, sCREWED. Russia has simply become a shadow of itself.

Je sui elenski

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Convicted murderer who fought with Wagner kills elderly woman after his release - as questions raised about returning convicts

Private military group Wagner has conducted much of its recruiting through prisons, offering convicts the chance of freedom once they have completed a six-month contract fighting in Ukraine.

An Associated Press investigation has now found instances where convicts returning from the war in Ukraine have committed further crimes - even murder.

Ivan Rossomakhin was convicted of murder three years ago and sentenced to a lengthy prison term, but was recruited to the Wagner group.

When his contract was up, he returned to the Russian hamlet of Novy Burets - and within months, he was arrested on charges of stabbing to death an elderly woman who he had once rented a room from.

Residents reported Rossomakhin had drunkenly wandered the streets carrying a pitchfork and threatening to kill everyone.

The Associated Press found at least seven other incidents in recent months where Wagner-recruited convicts were involved in violent crimes.

In Kaliningrad, a man was arrested in the sexual assault of an 8-year-old girl after taking her from her mother, according to a local media report and one of the girl's relatives.

Other incidents included a shop robbery at knifepoint, the sexual assault of two schoolgirls, and two other killings.

The British Defence Ministry had warned of the fallout in March, saying "the sudden influx of often violent offenders with recent and often traumatic combat experience will likely present a significant challenge for Russia's wartime society" as their service ends.

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukrai ... eblog-body

[toyolink]

This has become a real confusing, unstable and scary group of countries to live in hopes of peace and prosperity.
The loss of lives being reported over the pass 15 months or so just seems so futile and absolutely unnecessary especially since Covid made it clear that no living individual has any absolute control and to some extent territorial boundaries are really arbitrary in the most part.
Any evaluation of the motivations for what is happening just defies meaningful logic but on the other hand demonstrates some desire to destroy and only that.

[sMASH]

Of putin is a dictator, he should eliminate pregozhin for that push for power.
And if putin is a madman he would not care about Wagner power and utility.


But now wagner will be absorbed into the army or allowed to civilize.

Very undictator, very unmadmanlike.

[sMASH]

Convicted murderer who fought with Wagner kills elderly woman after his release - as questions raised about returning convicts

Private military group Wagner has conducted much of its recruiting through prisons, offering convicts the chance of freedom once they have completed a six-month contract fighting in Ukraine.

An Associated Press investigation has now found instances where convicts returning from the war in Ukraine have committed further crimes - even murder.

Ivan Rossomakhin was convicted of murder three years ago and sentenced to a lengthy prison term, but was recruited to the Wagner group.

When his contract was up, he returned to the Russian hamlet of Novy Burets - and within months, he was arrested on charges of stabbing to death an elderly woman who he had once rented a room from.

Residents reported Rossomakhin had drunkenly wandered the streets carrying a pitchfork and threatening to kill everyone.

The Associated Press found at least seven other incidents in recent months where Wagner-recruited convicts were involved in violent crimes.

In Kaliningrad, a man was arrested in the sexual assault of an 8-year-old girl after taking her from her mother, according to a local media report and one of the girl's relatives.

Other incidents included a shop robbery at knifepoint, the sexual assault of two schoolgirls, and two other killings.

The British Defence Ministry had warned of the fallout in March, saying "the sudden influx of often violent offenders with recent and often traumatic combat experience will likely present a significant challenge for Russia's wartime society" as their service ends.

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukrai ... eblog-body

1 incident?
Wagner is made up of criminals. Was expecting abu gharib level of debauchery.

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Convicted murderer who fought with Wagner kills elderly woman after his release - as questions raised about returning convicts

Private military group Wagner has conducted much of its recruiting through prisons, offering convicts the chance of freedom once they have completed a six-month contract fighting in Ukraine.

An Associated Press investigation has now found instances where convicts returning from the war in Ukraine have committed further crimes - even murder.

Ivan Rossomakhin was convicted of murder three years ago and sentenced to a lengthy prison term, but was recruited to the Wagner group.

When his contract was up, he returned to the Russian hamlet of Novy Burets - and within months, he was arrested on charges of stabbing to death an elderly woman who he had once rented a room from.

Residents reported Rossomakhin had drunkenly wandered the streets carrying a pitchfork and threatening to kill everyone.

The Associated Press found at least seven other incidents in recent months where Wagner-recruited convicts were involved in violent crimes.

In Kaliningrad, a man was arrested in the sexual assault of an 8-year-old girl after taking her from her mother, according to a local media report and one of the girl's relatives.

Other incidents included a shop robbery at knifepoint, the sexual assault of two schoolgirls, and two other killings.

The British Defence Ministry had warned of the fallout in March, saying "the sudden influx of often violent offenders with recent and often traumatic combat experience will likely present a significant challenge for Russia's wartime society" as their service ends.

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukrai ... eblog-body

1 incident?
Wagner is made up of criminals. Was expecting abu gharib level of debauchery.

sLIPPY,

Let me help you out because I realize you are always in a hurry to post before your phone battery dies, and you have to go back home to charge it up.

"The Associated Press found at least seven other incidents in recent months where Wagner-recruited convicts were involved in violent crimes."

If you have trouble reading what i post, just sound out the words slowly. Have a great evening, sLIPPY.

[sMASH]

6?
Need moar for such a hive of villainous scum as Wagner

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6?
Need moar for such a hive of villainous scum as Wagner

sCRAM, is seven such a big word for you?