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Postby pugboy » May 14th, 2009, 4:48 pm

pilot is a great job, one of the few where you dont need cxc passes
just medical, skill, procedural ability and money to start

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Postby hot blue » May 14th, 2009, 4:59 pm

I'll be honest... the ONLY reason anyone should be a pilot is because it's something you REALLY want to do. Don't do it for the money cause there is none.

Small rant... sorry

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Postby ImprezaDriver » May 14th, 2009, 5:03 pm

hot blue wrote:I'll be honest... the ONLY reason anyone should be a pilot is because it's something you REALLY want to do. Don't do it for the money cause there is none.

Small rant... sorry

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not when you first start....you get paid around $20k US

then five years down the road you're making 6 figures

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Postby Rory Phoulorie » May 14th, 2009, 5:15 pm

buzz wrote:
licence


youre on the wrong track btw


grammar police strikes again :lol:


For my own education, what grammar crime has been committed with the word "licence"? Or is it the grammar police is conducting internal investigations with the word "youre"?

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Postby nismotrinidappa » May 14th, 2009, 5:33 pm

so what is the average time it takes to finish the course?

9 months? 1 year? 2 years?

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Postby NorStar2K » May 14th, 2009, 5:42 pm

pugboy wrote:pilot is a great job, one of the few where you dont need cxc passes
just medical, skill, procedural ability and money to start

Your new perspective employer would. Ever saw the statement; a ATPL does not replace/substitute academic qualifications? You know those pesky Math, English, Geography, a science subject preferably Physics subjects.

nismotrinidappa wrote:so what is the average time it takes to finish the course?

9 months? 1 year? 2 years?

I answered that already

norstar2k wrote:(The FAA Professional Pilot Program offered by the Bristow Academy (US) is 9-11mths.)

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Postby ImprezaDriver » May 14th, 2009, 6:07 pm

nismotrinidappa wrote:so what is the average time it takes to finish the course?

9 months? 1 year? 2 years?


Depends on how hard you study :)

I got my VFR private in 3 months with around 50hrs of flight time.

my IFR rating on the other hand...................

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Postby nismotrinidappa » May 14th, 2009, 7:26 pm

what is VFR AND IFR?

VIRGIN FRONT AND REAR

AND

INTERFERED FRONT AND REAR?

neega talk engleesh!

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Postby wall » May 14th, 2009, 7:47 pm

after hearing all of this ,think it make sense tryna go for my cpl?

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Postby NorStar2K » May 14th, 2009, 7:49 pm

^I not touching that!

*Visual Flight Rules*

*Instrument Flight Rules*

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Postby wall » May 14th, 2009, 7:53 pm

norstar2k come nah what u really think ? i wana go for it but if getting a job after spending all tht money on getting the license is hard i dunno if i wana take the risk.

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Postby ImprezaDriver » May 14th, 2009, 8:00 pm

nismotrinidappa wrote:what is VFR AND IFR?

VIRGIN FRONT AND REAR

AND

INTERFERED FRONT AND REAR?

neega talk engleesh!



visual flight rules and instrument flight rules.

VFR = you can't fly through or near any type of cloud, or go up on certain night conditions. You have to have a certain distance of visibility at all times. You always have to have a horizon to orient yourself

IFR is when you can fly through clouds/layers. You have to rely solely on your instruments seeing that you have no visibility outside/horizon to orient yourself

just remember VFR= good weather
IFR = cloudy weather
there's tons of other info involving vfr and ifr but that's the gist of it.

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Postby ImprezaDriver » May 14th, 2009, 8:02 pm

wall wrote:norstar2k come nah what u really think ? i wana go for it but if getting a job after spending all tht money on getting the license is hard i dunno if i wana take the risk.


start off as an instructor....people always need instructors. You can rack up hours/experience which employers look for.

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Postby wall » May 14th, 2009, 8:10 pm

how many off u are local pilots ?

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Postby NorStar2K » May 14th, 2009, 8:13 pm

wall wrote:norstar2k come nah what u really think ? i wana go for it but if getting a job after spending all tht money on getting the license is hard i dunno if i wana take the risk.


I answer yuh already yuh know, but consider this, give the economy 6-10 months, and watch the price of oil, exploration will not resume until the price is over $70USD.

The 15 pilot cadets hot blue mentioned still have to be absorbed. And, there aren't that many positions in the first place.

Go and get your fixed wing license PPL(A) by Briko during your waiting period. Decide from that experience if flying is what you want.

If you must get your CPL(H) now, do it, learn Portuguese, and head for Brazil. They have one of the largest civilian helicopter operations in the world. :)
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Postby buzz » May 14th, 2009, 8:14 pm

Rory Phoulorie wrote:
buzz wrote:
licence


youre on the wrong track btw


grammar police strikes again :lol:


For my own education, what grammar crime has been committed with the word "licence"? Or is it the grammar police is conducting internal investigations with the word "youre"?


british spelling is ghey :?

and thaks for the heads up

internal affairs are investigating the alleged abuse of the english language


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby wall » May 14th, 2009, 8:40 pm

norstar2k wrote:
wall wrote:norstar2k come nah what u really think ? i wana go for it but if getting a job after spending all tht money on getting the license is hard i dunno if i wana take the risk.


I answer yuh already yuh know, but consider this, give the economy 6-10 months, and watch the price of oil, exploration will not resume until the price is over $70USD.

The 15 pilot cadets hot blue mentioned still have to be absorbed. And, there aren't that many positions in the first place.

Go and get your fixed wing license PPL(A) by Briko during your waiting period. Decide from that experience if flying is what you want.

If you must get your CPL(H) now, do it, learn Portuguese, and head for Brazil. They have one of the largest civilian helicopter operations in the world. :)
lol thanx fuh the info ... how hard portuguese is to learn now? lol

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Postby bushwakka » May 14th, 2009, 8:56 pm

hot blue wrote:PM me... I'll set you straight

and not to discourage you, but norstar2k is very correct... the heli industry in Trinidad is based primarily around the oil sector so it isn't the best industry to get into right now. There are app. 20 heli pilots fresh out of flight school waiting for a job and on avg. a total of 8 pilots are hired between Bristow and NHSL. With the recent economic downturn this number will probably fall.

forget doing anything in Trinidad. Briko is pointless IMHO and that is based on what ALL the pilots I know who trained there have said. The training there is inadequate in most areas and pilots seem to 'start over' when they go to the US to complete their training.

HOWEVER, I would suggest that you go to Briko for a familiarisation flight to see if being airborne is a feeling you like at all. The FAM flight as it is called has changed the minds of many ppl who wanted become pilots.

for heli training check these 2 sites for pricing and time frames:
www.cloud9helicopters.com
www.heli.com


why do u ppl keep making statements like this? do u realise that the everything is dependent on the oil &gas/energy sector in trinidad? its a useless thing to say that the energy sector is not a good thing to get into.....its the whole basis of our economy, remember natural gas is feedstock for the dozens of plants in pt lisas and elsewhere as well, if they got no feedstock, wat u think gonna happen?

if the gas run out tom.....we got far worse problems to think abt than a helicopter license rendered useless due to the closure of the industry

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Postby hot blue » May 14th, 2009, 9:51 pm

bushwaka I strongly think you are straying from the topic at hand.
We are SIMPLY discussing whether it is viable to get into the helicopter industry in Trinidad NOW. If you don't know anything about the topic then don't say anything. Your are CORRECT in what you said and we all know that Trinidad's economy is strongly linked to the oil industry and that we have to deal with that. THIS thread is NOT discussing that at all so why bring it up here.

FACT is that the helicopter companies in Trinidad transport the workers for the oil companies to the offshore oil platforms HENCE being DIRECTLY affected by the oil industry.

If the oil & gas companies cut back operations offshore then the demand for flights will drop and hence the need for pilots.
I hope this clears up your obviously confused state of mind.
Not trying to be rude/mean but seriously read the thread and understand what is being discussed before you write.

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Postby buzz » May 14th, 2009, 9:51 pm

migrate

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Postby bushwakka » May 14th, 2009, 10:02 pm

hot blue wrote:bushwaka I strongly think you are straying from the topic at hand.
We are SIMPLY discussing whether it is viable to get into the helicopter industry in Trinidad NOW. If you don't know anything about the topic then don't say anything. Your are CORRECT in what you said and we all know that Trinidad's economy is strongly linked to the oil industry and that we have to deal with that. THIS thread is NOT discussing that at all so why bring it up here.

FACT is that the helicopter companies in Trinidad transport the workers for the oil companies to the offshore oil platforms HENCE being DIRECTLY affected by the oil industry.

If the oil & gas companies cut back operations offshore then the demand for flights will drop and hence the need for pilots.
I hope this clears up your obviously confused state of mind.
Not trying to be rude/mean but seriously read the thread and understand what is being discussed before you write.


is you bring it up hoss, the man didn't ask if it was wise to do the flight training, he asked WHERE to do it, no offence taken

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Postby wall » May 14th, 2009, 10:39 pm

bushwakka wrote:
hot blue wrote:bushwaka I strongly think you are straying from the topic at hand.
We are SIMPLY discussing whether it is viable to get into the helicopter industry in Trinidad NOW. If you don't know anything about the topic then don't say anything. Your are CORRECT in what you said and we all know that Trinidad's economy is strongly linked to the oil industry and that we have to deal with that. THIS thread is NOT discussing that at all so why bring it up here.

FACT is that the helicopter companies in Trinidad transport the workers for the oil companies to the offshore oil platforms HENCE being DIRECTLY affected by the oil industry.

If the oil & gas companies cut back operations offshore then the demand for flights will drop and hence the need for pilots.
I hope this clears up your obviously confused state of mind.
Not trying to be rude/mean but seriously read the thread and understand what is being discussed before you write.


is you bring it up hoss, the man didn't ask if it was wise to do the flight training, he asked WHERE to do it, no offence taken


sry to say but i did infact ask both where and if it was wise to do it

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Postby NorStar2K » May 14th, 2009, 11:28 pm

And, I think we're finished here!

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Postby wall » May 14th, 2009, 11:30 pm

yeh just about. if i have any more questions il just pm u

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Postby eekipoo » May 15th, 2009, 11:15 am

THE END

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Postby nismotrinidappa » July 4th, 2009, 2:43 pm

part two :oops:

anyone can recommend affordable and competent flight schools in the US for private and commercial licence fixed wing?

or is better/cheaper to get private in trinidad first?

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Postby caglowe » September 29th, 2009, 10:17 am

Great and informative post

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Postby gunsmoke » September 29th, 2009, 1:25 pm

I wouldnt advise anyone get flight training here, because of these reasons:

1. our flight opportunities are VERYYYYY limited. we only have a feww jobs here, which u can get only if a pilot dies, or if he leaves the job. unlike in the United States where there are literally thousands of job opportunities in this sector. so its really tuff to know you spend 70,000USD and u dont have a job, if u have a US residency/citizenship.. then fix up, u can get real opportunities there.. but if u are a trinidad citizen, hard luck.

i know this Commercial Pilot, who have all the ratings, working as a baggage handler at piarco, because theres simply no jobs for him.

2. it is a field, where you need to have solid qualifications to fall back on. fail one medical, and you're history.

but seriously, if you're going to invest 2-3 years, and average of$500,000 TT or more, think carefully of where you would get a job when you're done.

and take into consideration all these airlines like delta, AA, Continental etc bring their own american pilots eh... even the pilots in CAL are american born to the trini diaspora in toronto, new york, miami etc.

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Postby NorStar2K » September 29th, 2009, 1:35 pm

nismotrinidappa wrote:part two :oops:

anyone can recommend affordable and competent flight schools in the US for private and commercial licence fixed wing?

or is better/cheaper to get private in trinidad first?

Dude, did u read the thread? Asked and answered.

Right now Air Guard is recruiting Officer Cadets - Perfect opportunity for young potential military pilots. They are asking for a CPL but its worth exploring especially with the acquisition of the Four AW139 Helicopters.

Go get your PPL(FW) from Briko and sign up. The Air Guard flight ops training is gonna be huge!

See this thread. Lots of overseas training involved.
http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/vie ... highlight=

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Postby hot blue » September 29th, 2009, 10:32 pm

Well Air Guard isn't even demanding flight experience from what I saw in the ad. They simply said it would be beneficial. (Check the ad in the Guardian to confirm)

It really is a great opportunity for the 25+ ppl I know about that have full CPL(commercial) Helicopter licenses and are waiting for a job... not to mention all the Fixed Wing ppl who are waiting for a job.

It's an opportunity like no other when you think about it. You get training on a medium twin turbine helicopter that is quickly becoming the new type of choice... the AW139. PLUS, you will get military training inclusive of the NVG(night vision goggles).

If I fell in the required age bracket(18-24) I might have applied for it !!!

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